It Ticks Me Off....

[Alffe]

That some people are incapable of learning from past mistakes...

That the only thing wrong with our little church are the "good Christians" attending it.......

That people who claim to be good Christians will say hurtful things to our Pastor instead of overwhelming her with appreciation and love.....

That these same "good" people would bring the Pastor to tears and then be critical of her for crying................

That these "devout members" would make fun of her...the same ones who refused to give our previous minister a raise two years in a row and then complained when he went to a new church...................

That my phone rings off the hook and I cannot support their position...

That they don't like having a woman Pastor....only men can be Pastors!
and they don't like the way she waves her arms and they feel like she's teaching Sunday school and she doesn't inspire them and on and on and on!!

I am mad enough to spit!! We have a time in our service when we share joys and concerns.....boy oh boy would I like to share some!!!!!

[KathyM]

So the delivery and appearance is more important than the actual message. Interesting. I wonder where their devotion lies :rolleyes: - oops, wrong thread. :p

I have a friend who likes to razz his Christian friends when they speak of Jesus. He says it sounds like they are referring to thier imaginary friend. :D I wonder what this imaginary friend would have to say about these devout Christians making their pastor cry. :mad:

It ticks me off when people use religion/God to justify rude human behavior.

[Doody]

Well, this is interesting.! I was just thinking about a ticked off thread yesterday and now I can't remember what it was.

So I'll be ticked off about the same subject. ((Alffe)) completely understand. I haven't met very many of what I consider true Christians. People who walk the walk they talk. I'd love to see an animated pastor!

There is a woman pastor at my folks 'sister' church, and my mom just doesn't think that's right. Well crikies.

And as long as we hit the subject of women being in what normally is considered a man's job, it really ticks me off that there are people that think a woman couldn't be an effective president. I'm not just speaking of Hillary Clinton, but any woman. I know my mom would never vote for a woman president.

At my mom and dad's church, a lady friend was a devout attendee for years on end. She was divorced. And she met a man and they fell in love and being older folks, they lived together for a long time. Then they decided to go ahead and get married. The pastor at my folk's church wouldn't marry them because they had been living in sin.

She hasn't been back to that church since. :(

Gimme a break.

And I think you should just go ahead and voice your opinion to them Alffe. Who better to set them straight than you? Shame on them!

[~KELLWANTSANSWERS~]

Hey everyone
I'm so sorry i have'nt been around much lately!!
I am doing ok.Same stuff different day.
I am ticked off that both of my boss's told me they would give me a few days,then turn around and say they are cuttin my hours.CUT?I did'nt get much to start with.
It ticks me off that i am now looking for a new job!

[ConsiderThis]

((((((((KellWantsAnswers))))))))

Maybe the new job will be a blessing.

I know it's frustrating and stressful, though...

Any chance you can take a lovely restful bath and forget about it all for a bit?

:)

[ConsiderThis]

Alfie,
I'm sorry that's all happening.

(It's nice you're so popular... there is that aspect.)

You know what, I'm happy being a hermit. :)

(Except if I was a good hermit I probably wouldn't frequent forums...):rolleyes:

[snoozie]

I have those "good Christians" at my church who sit and gossip about all the ones they don't like. I don't understand it because when I am at church I am so very happy and the last thing I would want is to spoil it by wondering what everyone thinks or what i think about them.

I just put a smile on my face and go on lovin the Lord.

You know my hubby says that the people in my church that are raising their hands are trying to give God a high five. So I said "why not maybe God likes a high five now and then too ":D He grew up in a strict Catholic church (now this isn't saying Catholics are wrong now) but from what I saw when I went with him was not alot of emotion and it just wasn't the right fit for me.

Now if he would go to church on a regular basis I would go with him to any church but he doesn't like going, probably for alot of the reasons that have been mentioned here. He sees the cliques and just can't stand it but I am not there to be liked I am there to be loved...Sue:wink: :hug:

[DMACK]

Alffe


I share every ounce of anger you about this problem.

I belive in God but do not attend any church [ was a Pentacostalist 20 years ago]

Those people ,who you feel are Good christians ARE NOT they are small minded people who hide behind religion to propagate their shellfish and introspective nature.

True believers would not ridicule an individual, God sent this pastor to your congregation, are they implying his decision was wrong?

AIR your views, its better to find out if the church you attend now is truly the place to be.
Good luck.

[Alffe]

I thank you all for your replies. I'm less angry today and more depressed about her situation. Our small church is this Pastors first church...she had a "calling" for lack of a better word in her late forties, gave up a succesful career in Social Servies and went to seminary. I have watched her enthusiasm dwindle for two years now, have watched her reach out many times only to be rejected time and again. Behavior like this is not acceptible in any situation but to have it blatantly and repeatedly in Gods House just astounds me!

Nice to see you here Consider This...but that kind of popularity I can do without. My "foolish response" is always the same.."I like her and think she is wonderful" The bible says we are supposed to "overwhelm our ministers with love and appreciation".

And David...no, these are not good Christians...they are regular pew warmers.
We all know the difference. :(

[DMACK]

Alffe

'Words without thoughts, never to heaven go'

William Shakespear

[Addy]

Alffee, I am so very sorry for your Pastor. She is very blessed to know you as her friend. I pray she has the strength to recognize she is and has been doing what is right.

:hug:

:grouphug:

[FeelinGoofy]

Right now my cell phone company REALLY ticks me off.... GRRRRRR

Alffe, I just dont understand people sometimes.... I'll remember to say a prayer for your pastor. Maybe i should add the members that are giving her such a hard time.... Sounds like they need a good attitude adjustment. :hug:

[who moi]

Alpho, I really feel for your pastor. It sounds like she is such a good person yet the so called "Christians" want to judge her...

I have no problems with any religion nor its followers. It is when they want to SHOVE it in your face that I have a problem with.

I have told my Christian friends and Muslim friends the same thing. When I pray with you, I am sincere in my prayers with you. Not because I am praying for your God, but because I am praying for YOU. That "YOU" are what makes it special for me...

I have swung in the jungle of religion for a lot of years in my life to now that I like where I am in my life...

I am ticked at rude people...we are in the Northern parts of the states and rude people are everywhere...I find myself making fists and wanting to really really yell at them for turning me into one of THEM....

I wonder sometimes (I know, wrong thread) that if people know that their rude actions can cause a negative reaction and thus in the end it can go against them because I believe in what goes around, will come around...

I am ticked at many things at the moment...but will refrain from posting it...

but I will say this...seeing our grand children has helped steer a lot of these negative energy away...I love these kids...they are precious, they are wonderful...I only hope that they stay this way and on the right path...*bigsigh...

one thing I will mention before I leave is that we saw our two grand children playing in the park, catching bugs and were entertained by holes in the ground, butterflies in the air, clouds in the sky...and it takes me back with them...I think we all need that sometimes...to be refreshed...

[Lara]

one thing I will mention before I leave is that we saw our two grand children playing in the park, catching bugs and were entertained by holes in the ground, butterflies in the air, clouds in the sky...and it takes me back with them...I think we all need that sometimes...to be refreshed...

Yes, I think so too. There's a little bit of that little child in all of us. Just some people shut it off completely. Don't ever lose that little child in yourself, Moi. That's part of what makes you so special. As I've said before and I'll say it again, it's all in the details. Those bugs, those butterflies, those clouds, the dirt, the grass, the ants, the leaves, the trees... climbing a tree and pretending you're Maid Marion (or in your case Robin O'Hood lol). Climbing a statue in the middle of Washington DC outside a government building even if it's highly illegal ;) . Sticking the face full on into a bowl of flowers just cause they look almost edible and so inviting and then to be enveloped by the glorious smell... too bad about the bees. lol

It's all a balance, Moi. Some times we go a little too far this way and other times we go a little too far that way but in the end it'll balance out again. Don't let people make you feel so bad. I know it's not easy. Heck, that's why I'm a happy hermit ;). I know it's been that way for so long in your life, but not all people are like that. Keep yourself surrounded by the people you love and those who love you and all those other nasty ones will fade into oblivion. I hear your pain and I'm sorry. I hope you're feeling better soon.

[Spanish Moss]

Balance...what a goood word, Lara....

Another word that I love is PERSPECTIVE...it is something that keeps us in balance and something we lose when things are out of balance...

But I find that it is the "little things" in life that give us that perspective...and it is often our friends (like you all here) that help remind us and pull us back from one end or the other.....

Thank you all for the perspective and balance you bring...

[Alffe]

Not sleeping here either...wish we could chat dear friend. :hug:

[Abasaki]

i've been up all night too....
maybe it's something in the air....

hope ya'll got some rest...
:hug:

[Alffe]

We should have met as nightowls! *grin Now what could be in the air.....
I must admit that it thundered here and carried on...Cooper pushed me out of bed...I've had my nose in a book all afternoon....tonite, hopefully we'll all sleep. (((Abbie)))

[Doody]

Oh dear Moi. Our talk in the car on the way to the airport a couple of years ago changed so much in my life for the good. I think I told you and thanked you for it, but wanted again to tell you how much that talk did for me. :hug:

[Curious]

i've been up all night too....
maybe it's something in the air....

hope ya'll got some rest...
:hug:

abbie...that's powdered tang in the air. :p

hope you get some rest tonight sweety. if not....come hoot with me!! :hug:

[~scrabble]

Looks like you are all offline now. I hope you are sleeping well!

(Anyone got some extra fairy dust they can spare?)

:rolleyes:

[Curious]

it ticks me off that my neighbors downstairs got ticked off at me for complaining that they empty their cat litter box right next to their front door. :thud: which happens to be pretty close to mine. talking to them first didn't work. they tried to tell me it was organic litter and would just turn into dirt. yeah..in about 10 years. :Hum: this was not just one box full. they must have been doing it for months. i guess the people who lived here before mainly came upstairs through their garage.

[Lara]

ewwwwwww That's not pleasant.

but... why do they have a kitty litter box inside if they then go empty it next to the front door? They may as well let their cat or cats do it all outside to begin with.

[Alffe]

Well dear monkey, I see you are off to a great start with your new neighbors.
:D Don't take a leaf from my book and scream ***** H#$e at them.
It's takes a very long time to recover from such an impulse. :o

[FeelinGoofy]

it ticks me off that i cant sleep and i'm so very tired....

AND my son ticks me off when he gets this attitude of him knowing it all and me knowing nothing.. I know its his age...

AND the dog we're dogie sitting REALLY ticks me off when he pees on my carpet and scratches on my bedroom door at 3:00am wanting to sleep in my bed...

[Lara]

(((Goofy)))

So sorry you can't sleep.

I guess you could always put your son and the dog in the same room together and shut the door. lol :D

[ConsiderThis]

I thank you all for your replies. I'm less angry today and more depressed about her situation. Our small church is this Pastors first church...she had a "calling" for lack of a better word in her late forties, gave up a succesful career in Social Servies and went to seminary. I have watched her enthusiasm dwindle for two years now, have watched her reach out many times only to be rejected time and again. Behavior like this is not acceptible in any situation but to have it blatantly and repeatedly in Gods House just astounds me!

Nice to see you here Consider This...but that kind of popularity I can do without. My "foolish response" is always the same.."I like her and think she is wonderful" The bible says we are supposed to "overwhelm our ministers with love and appreciation".

And David...no, these are not good Christians...they are regular pew warmers.
We all know the difference. :(
(((((((Alffe)))))))))

I forgot to change my notifications to instant, and therefore I didn't timely reply. :(

So many things are popularity contests, that really shouldn't be.

I think your response is BRILLIANT. Light, warm and lovely.

[ConsiderThis]

it ticks me off that my neighbors downstairs got ticked off at me for complaining that they empty their cat litter box right next to their front door. :thud: which happens to be pretty close to mine. talking to them first didn't work. they tried to tell me it was organic litter and would just turn into dirt. yeah..in about 10 years. :Hum: this was not just one box full. they must have been doing it for months. i guess the people who lived here before mainly came upstairs through their garage.
Oh dear!!!!!

Are they using the Swheat stuff? It's great organically and it's great for kitties, I used it after my love, John Henry, died... I thought the other kind of litter had contributed to his death, this was before I knew about the hydrogen sulfide... so after that when I got a new kitty I always used the Swheat litter.

But, it doesn't turn into earth very quickly, not even in my garden under compost materials.

So you've got my sympathy.

[Doody]

Big sigh. Well, maybe I'm more sad than ticked off, but I was sad, then shocked, then mad on my way home from work tonight.

I drive down a main artery in town to and from work. It's probably THE primary street in town that people use, very very busy. So, I'm stopped at one of the major intersections for a red light. Rush hour. And there on the other side of the intersection is a youngish looking Asian man going across the highway in a wheelchair. And not a motorized wheel chair.

He gets to the other side and there is a slight upward incline to get to the sidewalk in either direction. He tried and tried and tried and couldn't get up the incline and would slowly roll back down to the street.

I was totally freaking out. Luckily, I could turn right at the intersection, which I did, parked my car fast, put on the flashers and jumped out of the car. (Opposite side of the highway from him.) So I ran to the stoplight but by this time had a red light. Traffic was whooshing by him and he was watching very carefully and hanging on tight to the wheels.

I waited for a break in the traffic and ran, stopping a few cars that tried to fleet by, and finally made it to the other side. By that time, 2 other WOMEN had pulled their cars over and were getting out of their cars. We helped push him up the hill to the sidewalk.

Meanwhile, I was watching the traffic and remembered I had several men sitting around me when I was watching this poor guy crossing the street. Did ONE MAN stop to help. No. Did they whiz by while we were trying to help him. Yes. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

I don't know what his physical problem was, but the poor guy couldn't speak and kinda 'flopped' around a little. ONe of the ladies asked him several times if there was anything else we could do, and I noticed he was struggling trying to talk. He finally gave a thumbs up sign and blurted out THANK YOU. His teeth looked like rotted nubbins, I don't know how else to describe it. Had a little backpack and had gloves on, I assume because it can be difficult on your hands moving the wheels on a wheelchair.

I just gave him a partial hug and said You are very welcome.

And went back to my car.

And then I got really sad. And it made me cry a little, and I am not a crier. Not much anyway. Sit me down at anybody's funeral, and I'll cry ya a river.

I felt helpless to do anything more. And was mad that people didn't rush to help him. There was even a frigging car with 2 men in it watching him trying to get up the damned hill and they were right there next to him at the light!

Then I got mad AND sad wondering why so many people have to suffer so much. It's hot here like everywhere else, and I felt so bad for the guy.

Well, anyway...I'm just so ticked off that more people didn't try to help him and just kept roaring by him. :(

If you made it through this long post, I'm extremely impressed! :D

[Curious]

:hug:

i am so proud you are my friend doody. you are one special lady.

[Alffe]

Why am I not suprised that you'd help! And I got a really good mental picture of the whole thing...very descriptive post doody. You rock! as my grandaughters would say. :D

[dorrie]

Hi Alffe! My heart goes out to your pastor. It will be such a loss to your church without her. I go to a 12 step group for alcoholics and sometimes the odd person gets cocky and judgemental of other people in the program. I always tell my sponsees that if someone is like that to them that it is OK to tell them in a non-sarcastic way(if that is possible!) to" keep coming back, it'll get better!" ( Meaning they will eventually get it...that it is not "all about them") Usually they have a BIG resentment...some eventually understand...some do not.....but I tend to like to put the ball where it belongs and then "I" do not carry the resentment....if they insist on carrying it, then so be it! :hug: Hugs to you! Dorrie:)

[KathyM]

Oh Doody, Doody, Doody :hug:

You made my day - and that says a LOT! :eek:

You gave that man a little humanity. You gave him a little hope that someone cares in this world. You gave him the courage to keep fighting traffic with that one little gesture. :D

If only people could catch each other when we fall, huh? :grouphug:

Thanks for the yummy story. Now Ima go puke. :D

[dorrie]

Big sigh. Well, maybe I'm more sad than ticked off, but I was sad, then shocked, then mad on my way home from work tonight.

I drive down a main artery in town to and from work. It's probably THE primary street in town that people use, very very busy. So, I'm stopped at one of the major intersections for a red light. Rush hour. And there on the other side of the intersection is a youngish looking Asian man going across the highway in a wheelchair. And not a motorized wheel chair.

He gets to the other side and there is a slight upward incline to get to the sidewalk in either direction. He tried and tried and tried and couldn't get up the incline and would slowly roll back down to the street.

I was totally freaking out. Luckily, I could turn right at the intersection, which I did, parked my car fast, put on the flashers and jumped out of the car. (Opposite side of the highway from him.) So I ran to the stoplight but by this time had a red light. Traffic was whooshing by him and he was watching very carefully and hanging on tight to the wheels.

I waited for a break in the traffic and ran, stopping a few cars that tried to fleet by, and finally made it to the other side. By that time, 2 other WOMEN had pulled their cars over and were getting out of their cars. We helped push him up the hill to the sidewalk.

Meanwhile, I was watching the traffic and remembered I had several men sitting around me when I was watching this poor guy crossing the street. Did ONE MAN stop to help. No. Did they whiz by while we were trying to help him. Yes. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

I don't know what his physical problem was, but the poor guy couldn't speak and kinda 'flopped' around a little. ONe of the ladies asked him several times if there was anything else we could do, and I noticed he was struggling trying to talk. He finally gave a thumbs up sign and blurted out THANK YOU. His teeth looked like rotted nubbins, I don't know how else to describe it. Had a little backpack and had gloves on, I assume because it can be difficult on your hands moving the wheels on a wheelchair.

I just gave him a partial hug and said You are very welcome.

And went back to my car.

And then I got really sad. And it made me cry a little, and I am not a crier. Not much anyway. Sit me down at anybody's funeral, and I'll cry ya a river.

I felt helpless to do anything more. And was mad that people didn't rush to help him. There was even a frigging car with 2 men in it watching him trying to get up the damned hill and they were right there next to him at the light!

Then I got mad AND sad wondering why so many people have to suffer so much. It's hot here like everywhere else, and I felt so bad for the guy.

Well, anyway...I'm just so ticked off that more people didn't try to help him and just kept roaring by him. :(

If you made it through this long post, I'm extremely impressed! :D
Doody...you are an Angel! I know that I could not of sat and watched him struggle either. It is a shame that there aren't more Doodys in the world. You are wonderful! Dorrie:hug:

[who moi]

doody, you rock!!

:hug:

[Alffe]

Dorrie have you read The Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren? There is a chapter in there about Protecting Your Church that should be required reading for a congregation IMHO. Thanks for caring. :hug:

[Doody]

I am not a hero but I admit to sometimes rocking. Anyone here would have done the same.

The amazing thing is that yesterday I picked up daughter and we drove to her home after work. I was telling her the story. When I got to the part where the young man gave me a thumbs up and blurted thank you, she said, "OMG Mom!!!! That's Nick!!!!!" Then she started to tell me about this wonderful young Asian boy that she went to high school with!

She said he was so sweet but had so many disabilities, but none of the kids in high school ever taunted or made fun of him. He's very nice, she said. And she said he gives thumbs up to people when everything is good.

She said he has Cerebral Palsy and has been through quite a few surgeries including carpal tunnel release on both wrists and a spine surgery. His parents are gone and he struggles living on government assistance. Oh boy, bet that's just a friggin windfall of money! :mad:

Anyway...it still ticks me off that people suffer like this and if I hear one more time that we are all sinners and paying for the 'original sin' I'll scream! :mad:

Anyone who can 'create heaven and earth' and create two human beings in a garden of eden, should have the power to keep good people safe and healthy. Original sin my ****. Someone who can create beauty and then turn into someone who decides we're all born into sin because of the 2 original sinners...well...it ticks me off.

[Alffe]

http://www.mcmanweb.com/fear_anger.htm

[Doody]

Well I sure have no clue. I had a hard time getting through that. I guess I'm a depressive labile euphoric. :rolleyes:

[KathyM]

Doody

Please don't let the hotel hear about this. They may not give you a room. They might insist on a local chaperone to watch over you and stuff Kleenex in your ears - or wipe your tears with Lollipops. :eek:

[Doody]

Doody

Please don't let the hotel hear about this. They may not give you a room. They might insist on a local chaperone to watch over you and stuff Kleenex in your ears - or wipe your tears with Lollipops. :eek:

LMAOROFL!!!! :Crazy 2: