Thoughts and prayers please

[kimmydawn]

Thank you all so much for the thoughts, prayers and fingers crossed for our little guy and family. Please send them out strongly right now.

We're getting ready to go and see the endocrinologist. He might have much more insight into the low fetal movement. I'm afraid it's indicative of his being hypothyroid due to the meds for daughter's thyroid. If that's the case he could have a goiter as well and they've not been able to get a view of his neck in ultrasound, so...

It could indicate to the specialist something that the OB's not aware of...there's no answer from OB about his low movement and non-stress tests being so sluggish and barely passing still.

Daughter has had two hospital stays this week alone and is looking at more due to our little guy. However, he's not showing a clear distress to take him at 35 weeks.

Thank you ((((((all))))))) so much for the continued support.

Love & Thanks,

KD

[Chemar]

:hug: Kimmy

prayers lifted for y'all and especially the lil one right now.

praying especially for great wisdom for the endo

:grouphug:

[kimmydawn]

Thanks (((((((((((( chemar )))))))))))))

The endo is extremely concerned. We explained what's going on to him (I don't guess OB let him know...argh), and his words, "Oh, that's not good. That's not good at all." He said that daughter should be very concerned. She's been being over-treated. :( :( :( She's hypothyroid...considerably.

He said she went from way high to pretty low and has been being over-treated with the PTU. He knew her levels were all over the place. Why did he wait another month to see her as opposed to two weeks???

He's taken her completely off the PTU (she was on 200 mg daily). I asked if he would turn around with this. He said he should...he hopes. I asked her OB LAST WEEK if the baby could be hypothyroid..."Oh no" was his response. :(

So now daughter's still very, very worried about her little guy and worried about going off the PTU (going "crazy" again, severe tachycardia, etc.)

The endo said there's a test they can do on umbilical cord to find out if he's hypothyroid and inject the meds right into amniotic fluid. Daughter's very scared about that. It's all scary and so very complicated.

Let's pray he makes an immediate turn around with PTU absent.

Much love,

KD

[Curious]

:grouphug: for the whole family.

this is getting mind boggling. that poor girl!!

kimmy..you are doing better than i would. i would be smacking those dr''s heads together. something to get them on the same page. :mad: i know you have to stay calm for your daughter. :hug:

how fast do they think it will take for the ptu to be out of her system?

y'all have to be on pins and needles. can i scream for you?

you know i have been praying. that sweet baby will be here soon.

love ya

[kimmydawn]

thank you ((((((((((((( curious ))))))))))))))))

I am screaming interally!!! I'm soooooooooooooooooooooooo ANGRY...so angry.

OB didn't even consult with endo through all of this???? We asked for levels at hospitals and said no need. Endo waited a full four weeks when she'd been showing massive instability and the potential for hypo last visit??????

God help me. I'm angry.

KD

[kimmydawn]

I gotta say...

You know, we as patients and loved ones say very sheepishly, "Dr. could it be??" We're dismissed TOO EASILY!!!! It's just a SIMPLE TEST THAT MEANS THE WORLD!!!!! A simple phone call that could mean viability and life!!!!

ARGH!

KD

[Curious]

take a DEEP breath. god will givwe you the words you need without letting that monkey...errr...devil on your shoulder speak.

be firm. look straight in his eyes. that stare that he knows you mean business and know what you are talking about.

it infuriates me for dr's to treat me like i know nothing. hmph...they don't know my background. :wink:

i dealt with incompetent dr's taking care of my mother. her primary dr did not have hospital rights. something we did not know. hence the hospital appointed dr's didn't feel it their job to talk to dr they don't "pratice" with. between the 2...just about killed her. needless to say...they didn't like very well. :D

go gettum' mom!

tell jess she has lots of love and prayers coming from texas!!!!!!!!:hug:

[InHisHands]

Praying for you, your family and the little one, Kimmy Dawn!! :hug:

Praying that God gives you strength and peace! :heartthrob:

[Lara]

(((KimmyDawn)))

[KathyM]

Unfrigginbelievable! :mad:

It's the only word that comes to mind at the moment that I can post. :o

(((Kimmydawn)))

[CoolAngel26]

So unfriggin fair. (Kathy,stole your terminology..couldn't resist!:cool: )

[redtail]

Thinking of you Kimmydawn and sending prayers and positive thoughts to all of you and yours:circlelove:
redtail

[dorrie]

Kimmy Dawn: Please know that in a few minutes when I go to bed, my prayers will be for you and your loved ones.:hug: Hugs from me to you!

[Darlene]

Kimmy

This a time in which we never really want to see in our lives. I am sure you are like me, when our kids or grandkids hurt in any way we are hurting our selves on the inside, deeply. How we would love to take the place of them.

We just have to take one day at a time. Thinking positive and taking those deep breaths as Curious said.

Also as curious I send my Texas hugs and thought, before all of Texas will be with you.

Many :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: to you and your family.

Darlene

[SallysMom]

Dear LORD God,

I come to you this morning only because of the blood and broken body of Jesus. You know what is going on with the mother and the baby. Please give the doctors and other health care workers wisdom regarding medicine and the exact amount. Work through those doctors. Put angels in the room. Jesus, reach down and touch the little baby and the mother. Put everything in balance according to your will and your timing.

In the Mighty Name of Jesus
AMEN

[kimmydawn]

There aren't words to express fully my thanks and appreciation for each of you.

We did get some news about my oldest yesterday (she's 21 weeks today).

She's having a boy too! His name is Ethan James. We will have a Jonathan Jeffrey first, then an Ethan James. They're due 3 1/2 months apart but it will probably be closer to 4 months difference between the two.

I KNOW what this one will look like. He has no choice but to have blue eyes, next to no white hair and fair skin. He's going to be a little cotton-top :)

My youngest (and the one with all the difficulty right now), I'm very excited to see what he looks like. She took her genes from her father's family and they are strong. Anyone having children in that family, the children look like them. They have strong. My daughter looks exactly like my hubby but feminine...lol. They're beautiful people. People would stop her and her cousin (also of the same family) and say, "Hey, are you a *****?" People we don't know! LOL

So, due to this, I'm guessing he'll look alot like his mama which looks like the family. If so, he'll have strong features as the most do in this family...a beautiful family and people all of them. His ultrasounds tell me I might be on the right track...you should see those cheeks and cheekbones! ;)

Thank you so much y'all!

Love,

KD

[AfterMyNap]

Still lifting you all in prayer, KD. Oy. Just remember that anger is still part of God's design for us and He may want you to use it!

Any chance of dumping the current OB and bringing someone else on board? This one has no right to neglect this case!

Holy moly, I'm mad too!:mad:

[kimmydawn]

Thank you, cindy.

I know that I'm angry at the world right now, but I'm really angry at this OB. He should have been consulting with her endo. He knows how difficult this case has been! The endo sends him notes and suggestions after every visit! For all this concern to be going on and him not to make a phone call boggles me. I tell you, nothing will happen out of the ordinary until WE call him for sure.

I will be asking the OB Monday if a neonatal specialist should be seen at this point. In fact, I will be close to demanding it.

He's concerned about the baby's tests and sluggishness, but he's not showing signs of clear distress. What, at 35 weeks we want him to? The endo seemed much more concerned about what it might indicate. He's sent his notes/instructions over and if the OB doesn't have them Monday, I will demand he call for them. We may call endo Monday to ask him if he thinks a neonatal specialist should be seen.

The OB sent her to the specialist and said they'd be working closely together for daughter. Um, what happened? It seems like endo's doing his part there.

Granted, I know the OB has probably never had another case like this, but you learn and are conscientious if you keep in contact with the one who does know?

Ugh, I'm just going on with the same things over and over. I'm sorry. I'm still very angry.

KD

[ConsiderThis]

thank you ((((((((((((( curious ))))))))))))))))

I am screaming interally!!! I'm soooooooooooooooooooooooo ANGRY...so angry.

OB didn't even consult with endo through all of this???? We asked for levels at hospitals and said no need. Endo waited a full four weeks when she'd been showing massive instability and the potential for hypo last visit??????

God help me. I'm angry.

KD

I am so sorry. Doctors make me so angry, I so feel what you are saying.

I wish they weren't so much into each their own little pigeon hole!!!!!!

(((((((((KimmyDawn))))))))

I hope things are improving, as I continue to read this thread.

(((((((((KimmyDawn)))))))))))

[kimmydawn]

Thank you ((((((((((((((((((ALL))))))))))))))))))))))) for the thoughts and prayers. They're coming through loud and clear!!!!

His movements are still low, but he's turning around!!!! We had the non-stress test today and not only was it the best our little guy has ever had, it was PICTURE PERFECT!!!! He just showed his little self. :) :) :) His movements had still been low, but I prayed a specific prayer for God to let us know if he's OK today.

We went and he not only ROCKED on his NST with PERFECT accellerations everywhere but moved three times! He's turning around now that daughter is off the auto-immune drugs.

Praise God and thank you all! Please keep it coming.

I needed to share. :)

KD

[snoozie]

That is great news KD, prayers are still being lifted...Sue

[KathyM]

(((KD)))

So, your little guy CAN dance, huh? :D

Such WONDERFUL news! Thanks for the update. :)

I continue to hold you and your family close in my prayers.

[kimmydawn]

*rolling around* http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/kymdawn/243.gif

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/kymdawn/thThankyoupink.gif

[ConsiderThis]

Oh, PERFECT!!!!!

Never loved the image so much before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kimmydawn]

hehe.

Karen, I've never loved that image before either. ;) Appropriate, huh? ;)


Daughter's been hypothyroid due to over treatment...so not only was she hypothyroid she was getting drugs to make her moreso on top of that! He was getting both as well.

The most common thing that can happen is a thyroid goiter for the baby (daughter already has a huge one). They're doing a high risk ultrasound Thursday to check everything but mostly for goiter. We pretty much know he's been hypo recently, but if he has a large one that could tell dr's maybe how severe his got?

They can do a special procedure to draw blood from his umbilical cord, but we don't know if that will happen yet. They may wait to see if it stablizes on its own. If it doesn't now that she's off the drugs, they may do it then inject the drugs he needs right into the amniotic fluid.

My daughter's main concern at this point (outside of him being ok now) is what could a three week period of hypo done to him, his development. She talks with her OB today. Her OB is supposed to call the endo to find out what he's thinking and recommends.

I feel in my mother's/mammaw's heart that he's going to be just fine now. I really do. My head gets in my way sometimes, though.

I know continued hypo for mother and baby can cause alot of problems, and worse, but we're thinking he was only hypo for about three weeks.

We have to watch daughter closely now that she's off the drugs for hypo signs and watch/monitor her emotional stability as well. Going hyper can really do a number on the body AND mind.

Please continue to pray/send thoughts and I'll keep y'all updated. We have a specific prayer outside of guidance for doctors and wisdom, and that's that the hypothyroidism didn't affect him more than slowing him and down he returns to our little guy who's done perfectly AGAINST THE ODDS. What a fighter our little man is already.

KD

[Dmom3005]

Sending prayers and good thoughts.

I have to say I believe in my heart that thursday is a good day for
testing.

Donna

[SallysMom]

Will continue to pray for your daughter and baby!

Judy

[Chemar]

KD is at the hospital and just called..........baby is going to be delivered soon as the endo felt ultrasound indicated urgency

Please pray:grouphug:

[Lara]

Thanks so much for letting us know.

[Chemar]

It's to be an emergency C section

the baby is tiny, estimated 5 lbs and heartrate plus amniotic fluid are low
Still dont know if he has a goitre, hence the C section as safer

Please pray for all to go well and for KD to see her lil grandson soon and not have to be so worried anymore
:grouphug:

[KathyM]

Thanks for the "heads up." :)

OMG we're going to be aunties and uncles! :grouphug:

C'MON SEABISCUIT! You can do it! :wink:

Extra prayers for all concerned.

[Corkybird]

Kimmydawn, I see you have OHIO beside your name, where abouts? I'm near Cleveland.


And KathyM....want to give you some good ol' hugs and prayers. Not sure if you remem me from old chitchat or not..I was Corky there????


take care,
Marilyn

[Chemar]

whooooooooooohooooooooooooooooo

baby jj born just a little bit ago and is doing great, as is mom and oh so happy grandma Kimmy

thank You Lord for keeping that lil guy safe all these months :)

http://bestsmileys.com/happy/5.gif

[Curious]

1597

happy birthday jj!!
:hug: congrats :hug:
:hug: mommy and daddy :hug:
and the whole family
:grouphug:

[Lara]

I'm so happy to read this that I could dance a jig. :D
Can't say too much right now because I was so worried and this is such a relief to hear that Mum and Baby are doing so well. Big hugs for KimmyDawn.
Thanks for letting us know, Chemar. :D

That is absolutely wonderful news!

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t32/KBurra/babyboy.jpg

[KathyM]

Gooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaal!!! :p

:grouphug:

Congratulations KD and Mom. Way to go kid - Welcome to the world! :D

PS: Corky!! I was wondering if that was you - so good to see you here! :hug:

[AfterMyNap]

Praise the Lord! Praise the Lord!!!!!!

Wooooo Hooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!



Way to go little dude, and welcome to the world!

Hooray for all of you, GrannyDawn!!!!!!!:grouphug:

[ConsiderThis]

What totally DYNAMITE news!!!!!!!!!!!

Happiness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chemar]

GrannyDawn.............................

I LOVE it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Hope ya slept soundly at last KD

Oh what relief it must have been to end the day knowing the lil guy is safe:p

http://www.innescentsfloral.com/HP_BabyBoy_orig.jpg

[Chemar]

I just wanted to add a BIG BIG "Thank You" to You LORD God for protecting jj and KD's daughter through this very hard pregnancy......
and for giving Kimmy the strength to keep going and being there for her daughter even when she was so weary and in such pain herself.

Thank You that jj came out loudly yelling "hello" :p and that he is going to be ok.

Please help KD's daughter heal from the enormous stress she has been under and help the doctors to provide safe and effective treatment for her.

Thank you sooooo much for a happy ending here :)

Amen
:Bow:

[InHisHands]

PRAISE THE LORD!! I am SO happy for you and your family!! :hug: :hug:

[Ellie]

Congrats on your newbie, Kimmy!!!! :rm_milk:

[Taffy]

He's here! Thank goodness! Enjoy your new miracle!

[kimmydawn]

I can NOT show big enough hugs, use enough smilies or GIFS to show my thanks to y'all for your support, thoughts and prayers. 10,000 of them wouldn't even be a drop in the bucket to the appreciation I feel!

I'm home to get some sleep. I've not slept since Weds night and that was about four hours because I was up putting together baby furniture...feeling an urgency.

We went yesterday for the high risk ultrasound as planned, overseen by a neonatologist. The tech started the test and didn't do the normal "cute" stuff. She left the gel on daughter's belly and said the Dr. would want to look for himself. Of course, we were very concerned.

He came in doing measurements, talking to tech, etc. After he spent what seemed gobs of time on his belly, I couldn't take it anymore (I was afraid they were seeing something horrible). I asked what they were concerned about. He said he is small. I actually sighed a relief...that was expected even though OB said he wasn't...we expected it based on FACTS and knowledge of grave's babies born to hyperthyroid moms.

They estimated him to be 5 lbs. 4 ozs. at almost 37 weeks which is considered full term.

Anyhow, he went on to say that her amniotic fluid was very low as well and the combo of the two indicated improper placental functioning. We explained we were going straight to OB's for non-stress test. He explained that no, we weren't. We were going to hosp. and he'd call OB. He was sending us to closest one that OB worked out of and when I explained that she was set up to deliver at another, he said to go there. We pretty much knew...THIS IS IT.

We got in the car and I called hubby. He grabbed son-in-law and met us out there.

When we got there they told her that she wouldn't be leaving without a baby. We were thrilled and petrified. We knew that God had heard our prayers and that dr's finally realized that he needed to come c-section (daughter had known this for months in her mother's heart).

Her regular OB was out of town and his BRAND NEW PARTNER was who we would be dealing with. She'd not even yet delivered here...more anxiety, but daughter was relieved (sad).

They had her all hooked up and was saying that the new OB would probably start pitocin pretty soon....um, what??? We explained that they still couldn't see whether or not he had a goiter and NO. She said that's what OB was planning. Goodness.

They hooked her up to all the monitors and everything looked fine for about an hour, then boom...alarms, about eight nurses, two doctors, room full of people were in there. JJ had a deceleration to 57 heart rate and was staying there! It was a blur and something like you'd see on TV. They were READY. One was putting in IV, another was taking monitors off while a dr was breaking water to insert monitor in scalp, one was rolling her over pushing on belly, etc. He normalized. They reckoned that due to the low fluid when he moved, he compressed the umbilical cord. OK, then the OB we were having was on scene and said that she'd be starting the pitocin soon.

I'm so proud of my daughter when she looked at her and said, "are you serious??? We don't know if he has a goiter and you want him to go thru the birth canal and now this just happened and could happen again???" They explained that he'd be OK, they were ready if they had to do c-section, etc. My daughter said, "Can you tell me for sure he doesn't have a goiter when the specialists can't? I don't care about my healing. I want him safe and he's been put through too much...we're pushing the odds too much and I demand a c-section." OB still tried to talk her out of it, but she stood her ground and the paperwork was signed. Not three minutes after that, he decelarated badly again. Nurses and dr's running, the OB passed me in the hall and said, "Yep, she knew. She made the right decision."

After the second serious deceleration, they didn't waste time. They took her on back and he was born safely and it was picture perfect from there.

He was 17 3/4 inches long, 5 lbs. 9 ozs. On both his one minute and five minute APGAR tests he got 9 out of 10 which is about the best they give they said. The ped. said that his reflexes are that of a full term baby and he's JUST FINE...just small. :)

He's eating, breathing, crying, burping, and holds a pacifier in his mouth with absolutely no help. HE'S PERFECT. HE IS SO BEAUTIFUL. He doesn't look really thin or anything because he's not long. He's got the cutest cheeks. :) I'll have pics in the next couple of days for y'all. :) Our family has a boy :)

Daughter is doing very well and endo was already to see her today and started her back on the PTU because her grave's is so "cantakerous"...LOL. He said he knows she'll flare and pretty quickly due to the hormone changes.

She's having minimal pain since the procedure because after the spinal, they inserted a morphine into her spine. She wasn't altered in the slightest but it helps to manage pain well for about 24 hours. Such a blessing.

I can't thank you all enough and am continuously praising God...He saw through this perfect baby against all odds...starting at conception. :)

My daughter's smile and light face is the best gift I think I've received in my entire life. She's whole now. She's ok. Her world is right for the first time in a year.

I'll be back with pics when I can.

Thank you so much. I love you all.

KD

[AfterMyNap]

KD, your enthusiasm is such a blessing to me today. I am so thankful for you.:hug:

[SallysMom]

Wow, what can I add. I am bawling my head off.

What a blessing. I am so happy for you that the baby is here and all right. God cares so much about that little guy. He knew him before he was born. May God watch over him now and always......Bless you, KD, and Hugs to your daughter.

Judy

[KathyM]

KD

In the future when I need to smile, I'll read this thread again. :hug:

It looks like you passed on that stress gene to your daughter - the good kind. Amidst all the chaos and confusion, she had the strength to stay focused and protect her child. She didn't hesitate to say she'd sacrifice her own life for her child. She's off to a good start, and THAT's the kind of mom a kid wants to have!!!! :)

They are so fortunate to have each other - and YOU. It's pretty obvious they couldn't have done it without you. :)

Thank YOU for showing me there really ARE true hearts of gold that can withstand incredible pressure right up to the end. I wish for you nothing but the best. :)

Get back to work missy! You've got some logs to saw :p

[SallyC]

I am so happy for you, Kimmy, DD and Family. It's a Miracle Boy!! Wooooooo Hoooooooo!!!

:hug:

[Dmom3005]

Kimmydawn

I am so happy this little miracle of a gem is here safe and sound.

I am also so proud that your daughter did just what was needed to
stand up to a OB that had the nerve to think she knew better than
the patient. And I'm guessing the OB that was to deliver.

Way to go girl. I can't remember her name, but I've nicknamed her.
Supermom today.

She will always have this memory and she will always remember that
she stood her ground. And I'm guessing that one page of your granny
book will have a page that says something about this too.

So enjoy this little miracle and know we will too.

Donna

[kimmydawn]

***** DUPLICATE POST FROM COMMUNITY FORUM & FEEDBACK *****

Thank you so much (((((((((((( everyone ))))))))))))))

Here's my pride and joy (OK and mama and daddy's too ;) )

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/kymdawn/eastershowerandjohnathon286.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/kymdawn/eastershowerandjohnathon297-1.jpg

[Curious]

:eek: i wanna kiss that nose!!!! :D

he is be-u-ti-mous!!!!!!

i jusr love when a baby boy looks like a boy. and dis guy..he is one lady killer. :D

[Chemar]

awwwwwww :circlelove:

miracle baby boy!!:hug: