View Full Version : RLS-can it be associated with diabetes?
07-30-2007, 09:33 PM
My husband's legs move about once every 20-30 seconds when he first falls asleep. I mentioned it to our dr. and he seemed to think it was associated with poor circulation in the legs, associated with his diabetes. Dr. wanted to give him some med for it (husb. said no it wasn't that bad), it isn't EVERY nite, but when it happens it will go on for a couple hours at least. Anyone else had a dr. make this connection?
07-30-2007, 09:37 PM
my hubby has what is called Periodic Limb Movement Disorder.
its not rsl. it is repetaive movements of limbs or even facial musles after falling asleep. sometimes the movement can happen a 100x. stop and start all night long.
i just switched isp and don't have all my faves moved yet. i'll see ifi can find you a link and see if this fits your hubby.
Hi Corky and Curious. :)
Yes, RLS and PLMS can be secondary to Diabetes (and some other conditions). Some medications can affect it as well. Here's another site that is about limb movements in sleep.
PLMS and RLS from Sleep Disorders Guide (http://www.sleepdisordersguide.com/blog/plmd/periodic-limb-movement-movements-in-sleep/)
I am both unfortunately - a restless kicker, although the RLS is the worst for me 'cause it happens when I'm awake.
Just as well I'm single and I sleep alone. (well, apart from my kitty and she knows not to sleep at the foot of my bed!) ;)
Here are descriptions of both PLMS and RLS from WeMove
Periodic limb movements in sleep (PLMS): Repeated stereotypic movements of the limbs (usually the legs) that occur during sleep. These movements typically consist of upward extension of the great toe and foot as well as flexion of the ankle, knee, or hip; they occur every 15 to 40 seconds and 0.5 to 6.0 seconds, usually during NREM sleep and have a duration of 0.5 to 6.0 seconds.
Restless legs syndrome (RLS): A neurologic movement disorder characterized by unusual, uncomfortable sensations (paresthesias/dysesthesias) deep within the calves and/or thighs, resulting in an irresistible urge to move the legs, and motor restlessness in response to or in an effort to alleviate discomfort. In some patients, the arms may also be affected. Symptoms become obvious or worse during periods of relaxation or inactivity; occur most frequently during the evening or the early part of the night; and may be temporarily relieved by voluntary movements of the affected area. Most patients experience associated sleep disturbances, including difficulties drifting off to and remaining asleep. RLS is also often associated with periodic limb movements of sleep (PLMS) or repeated, stereotypic, upward extension of the great toe and foot, potentially followed by flexion of the knee, hip, or ankle. Episodes of PLMS typically occur during periods of lighter (i.e., non-REM) sleep.
p.s. This is just my opinion... I have found it is best to see a Neurologist if you're needing diagnosis or treatment for these types of conditions.
07-31-2007, 05:10 PM
:hug: thanks lara.
so for no real reason why hubby has this. his blood work has always come back fine. no diabetes or pre. iron fine...that type of thing.
from me doing what research i know how..:o i haven't found a link to the years of steroids and hgh he took to the plmd.
his dr wanted him to take requip. no way. for us the risk of the side effects were too great.
now..you stop kicking htat kitty..and maybe he will stop kicking da monkey! or smacking her in the head! :eek: i soooooooo miss having my office to sleep in. :(
and yeppers....a dr is needed for a dx. even a sleep study. but this gives you some ideas corky. :hug:
In my case it appears to be a genetic thing involving dopamine regulation and other brain chemistry. Had it since I was a young child but it's varied in intensity over time and months and years. ... ebbs and flows, waxes and wanes.
I don't know anything about how previous steroid use would cause either of these things but imagine it's highly possible considering the effect it would have on endocrine system and rest of the body chemistry.
[I hope all you monkeys are settling in there! I get the impression that things are a little edgy there. If you can't have your office now, you'll need to rearrange somewhere that is your space... maybe wear ear plugs and blinkers/blinders. :winky: ]
07-31-2007, 05:29 PM
howza bout football gear? :p
I went looking for a football outfit for the monkey to wear, but couldn't find one in all that time :rolleyes:
This one is sort of on topic. (sorry about this tangent Corky!!!)
07-31-2007, 06:02 PM
hehehe ty lara.
i don't think corky will mind. she is a sweet heart. :hug:
the big question..what id ya put in that pipe! :eek: :p
07-31-2007, 10:56 PM
You gals got me roarin' laughing here with da monkey smokin' that pipe! And yes I do INDEED wonder what is IN that pipe!!! I've heard about people attending concerts where they were smoking pipes and seeing such things as flying monkeys...but never knew da monkeys smoked TOO!! ha ha ha
That PLS (or whatever it is called) sounds similar to what hubby does. As I said, I can lay there awake and actually tell WHEN they're going to move again according to my own breaths (they're spaced evenly apart each time it occurs). It's like he'll crack his ankle, or shift one foot off of it being on top of the other, or bend the knee..something of that sort exactly. Until it gets to the point that it KEEPS me awake, or that it happens every nite, he's not going to get meds for it. He's been walking more lately (since we've taken up the birdwatching hobby a few months ago) and it doesn't make any diff in the leg activity. We can walk 3 miles one day and they'll still jerk, can walk half a mile next day and they may or may NOT jerk, very unregular right now. Thanks for the link, will try to get HIM to check it out too.......
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