Where's Cheryl?

[Chris]

I am about to sign off for the evening and was wondering if anyone had heard from Cheryl? I know she was waiting to hear from her PCP about an ENT appt. If anyone has heard from her, please post on here and let us know. I'll check back in a little bit, but I've got to work tomorrow and need to get ready for the day.

Thanks!

Chris

[Av8rgirl]

I am about to sign off for the evening and was wondering if anyone had heard from Cheryl? I know she was waiting to hear from her PCP about an ENT appt. If anyone has heard from her, please post on here and let us know. I'll check back in a little bit, but I've got to work tomorrow and need to get ready for the day.

Thanks!

Chris

Hi Chris....

I took a nap this afternoon and saw my massage therapist. I feel really crappy.

Still nothing from the ENT doc....my PCP has called them for me. They are still not returning my calls. Maybe tomorrow otherwise I am going to the ER...this is getting ridiculous...my PCP agrees.

[Chris]

Hi Chris....

I took a nap this afternoon and saw my massage therapist. I feel really crappy.

Still nothing from the ENT doc....my PCP has called them for me. They are still not returning my calls. Maybe tomorrow otherwise I am going to the ER...this is getting ridiculous...my PCP agrees.

Awww, Cheryl!:(
What a bloody mess! Do feel better, and do go to the ER if you haven't heard anything from the ENT tomorrow. Have some extra hugs from me. :hug: I'm glad your PCP is looking after you. Keep us informed.

Be well,
Chris

[DM]

Well that plain stinks!! Hope you feel better oh Winged One.

Did the massage help at all? I had one last Fri and it felt so good.

:hug:

[AfterMyNap]

yeah, dang, woman! This has been going on way too long!

Get back in bed, nothing to see here!

[Av8rgirl]

yeah, dang, woman! This has been going on way too long!

Get back in bed, nothing to see here!

I got some more drugs from the local pharmacy and am heading for bed now...

See my new avatar?????

When is dingbat going to change hers? Guess she's going on vacation neked huh?

[Av8rgirl]

Well that plain stinks!! Hope you feel better oh Winged One.

Did the massage help at all? I had one last Fri and it felt so good.

:hug:


The massage helped loosened up the muscles in my back a bit. Maybe I can sleep a little better tonight. She said they were spasming pretty bad.

Thanks DM! Wings are not working very well. Good thing I am not flying!

;)

[yeahbut]

See my new avatar?????

When is dingbat going to change hers? Guess she's going on vacation neked huh?


Sorry to hear you are still feeling yucky! Get better soon.... :hug:

I think she needs to go back to her original one.. it is her!!!! but, I can see her getting on the plane neked now! :eek::eek: Wasn't there a song "DM GET YOUR CLOTHES ON!" "Yeah they call her DM"

[TheSleeper]

" I took a nap this afternoon " Dang! only one nap in one day? You are tough! Get well!:)

[DM]

Char ~ you're singing is making my dogs howl! :hug:

How's it going today FG? Been thinking of ya!

Puleeeeeeeeeeeeez feel better soooooon!

:hug::hug:

If I went neeekid, I'd be the only one on the plane. Me thinks even the pilot would bail. :eek:

[Av8rgirl]

Char ~ you're singing is making my dogs howl! :hug:

How's it going today FG? Been thinking of ya!

Puleeeeeeeeeeeeez feel better soooooon!

:hug::hug:

If I went neeekid, I'd be the only one on the plane. Me thinks even the pilot would bail. :eek:

It would be easy to get through security! LOL! Make sure you pack plenty of snacks DM! Bribes work well for the crew so they will stay on the plane with you! LOL!

No goosing the pilots tho...Gee, I do remember a story about a Southwest cockpit crew flying naked...(it's true, honest - I know one of them!)

;)


Yeah Paul, just one nap yesterday, but it was 3 hours long! Then I got up, went to the pharmacy, got some drugs, and came home and went back to bed! I think I slept about 16 hours yesterday!

Today I have a couple of "must do things." One being a legislative reception this afternoon. AMN/DM/Taffy/SallyC will be proud of me...another chance to wear my pretty red pendleton jacket from the "let's dress FG" thread...

[Av8rgirl]

The ENT specialist's office called this morning and after some cajoling (ha ha ha!) I have an appt with the doc tomorrow morning! They are going to "work me into the clinic" schedule tomorrow if I can be there at 8:30 with all the paperwork filled out.

I told her I am a very compliant patient and will do anything she wants so I can get in to see the doc...fax me the paperwork and I will fill it out and if she needs anything else just let me know and I will get it!

She asked me a bunch of questions and sort of implied that my PCP was not taking care of me. I told her that I have seen them 3 times in the last month and that they have done as much as they can and they are the ones who referred me to this doc...(thinking to myself she is the one who dropped the ball by not calling me 3 days ago to make an appt! - but I kept my mouth shut!)

So, paperwork faxed to me and I am now filling it out and will be there bright and early tomorrow morning....gravelely voice and all!

;)

[lady_express_44]

Why an ENT, Cheryl?

Cherie

[Av8rgirl]

Why an ENT, Cheryl?

Cherie

Chronic Sinus Disease, sinus infection and a deviated septum....

Cherie, I've had a sinus infection since Thanksgiving. After 20 days of antibiotics, no relief! The CT scan I had showed all the above...so a referral to an ENT specialist was in order!

[lady_express_44]

Chronic Sinus Disease, sinus infection and a deviated septum....

Cherie, I've had a sinus infection since Thanksgiving. After 20 days of antibiotics, no relief! The CT scan I had showed all the above...so a referral to an ENT specialist was in order!


Gotcha.

Sinus problems plagued me too for many years, and the first signs of MS were actually blown off as sinus problems. I have had two operations, and the last one was my saving grace.

I had blocked sinus passages from a nose-break that I never knew I got. That was the first operation. The second operation came after two straight years of sinus infections (many years of problems though). I was on antibiotics every other month actually.

I'll just tell you my story, in case you run into the same thing . . .

When I went in to see the ENT, he could find nothing obvious that was wrong. I would choke, I had constant infections, and was sick all the time. He did all kinds of tests, I was sent to an allergist (which I had many allergies), and then back to him.

It was the choking aspect that finally got me the dx. After three appointments, he spotted something dangling in the back of my throat. Turned out to be a polyp, but he couldn't tell where it orginated from. He guessed my cheek sinus passages, and booked me for a quick 20 min "snip" surgery. Several hours later, it turns out the story was that my sinus passages were "riddled" with these polyps, and the infection was so deeply entrenched, the antibiotics couldn't possibly clear it up. (Most sinus infections are hard to treat, but this added to the problem significantly.)

I don't know if testing procedures are easier for this condition, but I would ask if I were you. If it wasn't for that dangling one, I'd still be sick as a dog.

Good luck,

Cherie

[Av8rgirl]

I've had sinus infections for most of my life. I had a tonsillectomy in 1974 - that was a nightmare! An in-and-out day surgery ended up as a 3-day stay in the hospital! Docs don't like it when you don't wake up from the anesthesia...

Anyway, I have been allergy tested 3 times. The CT scan I had last week was my 3rd and this was the first time I've been told I have a deviated septum :mfr_wha:.... I 've not had any trauma that I am aware of...well maybe when I was a sophomore in high school but am surprised it's never been caught before...anyway...whatever!

I work in the wrong industry to have seasonal allergies, but I take medication and continue to do fine and deal with it. The antibiotics have always worked before so never even gave it a second thought.

However, I've never had any problems this time of year. This is different this time. Not going away. And it's just feels different. Nothing is showing up on the MRIs nor the CT scan. No polyps.

I've been told in the past that I need that scaping...but have declined b/c I know that once you have it, it will need to be done again and again. Not volunteering for any surgery that I don't NEED. I am not a good patient.

This guy is a friend and a good ENT surgeon. He won't lead me astray. I've not seen him professionally, only socially. That's why I wanted to get in to see him...I've not been pleased with the doc I have seen in the past.

So, we shall see what happens tomorrow. He's got all my records and he loves a good challenge - that would be me!

:D

[Chris]

The ENT specialist's office called this morning and after some cajoling (ha ha ha!) I have an appt with the doc tomorrow morning!

Let's all join hands and sing a verse from the "Hallelujah" chorus!!! It's about time! Best of luck to you tomorrow, Cheryl.:hug: I hope this doc can help you, FINALLY!!!!

All the best,
Chris

[DM]

I'm really glad to hear that, Cheryl! Someone needs to get a handle on this for ya. Feel better and I'm thinking of ya!

Geez, I forgot to borrow your pilot's wings for tomorrow. They would have looked snappy on my jacket!!

[Jappy]

Glad to hear that you are going to ent. Praying they will give you an
answer to your problems.

Keep us informed of their findings. Rest now, take the meds to help
you have a good nights sleep.


Jappy :hug:

[Av8rgirl]

Let's all join hands and sing a verse from the "Hallelujah" chorus!!! It's about time! Best of luck to you tomorrow, Cheryl.:hug: I hope this doc can help you, FINALLY!!!!

All the best,
Chris

I'm really glad to hear that, Cheryl! Someone needs to get a handle on this for ya. Feel better and I'm thinking of ya!

Geez, I forgot to borrow your pilot's wings for tomorrow. They would have looked snappy on my jacket!!

Glad to hear that you are going to ent. Praying they will give you an
answer to your problems.

Keep us informed of their findings. Rest now, take the meds to help
you have a good nights sleep.


Jappy :hug:

I am so ready to see this doc in the morning! I've got all the paperwork filled out. I even did a new spread sheet with all my meds! I am a compliant patient! His nurse is not going to have anything to complain about!!! LOL!

[Chris]

I am so ready to see this doc in the morning! I've got all the paperwork filled out. I even did a new spread sheet with all my meds! I am a compliant patient! His nurse is not going to have anything to complain about!!! LOL!

WELL? What was the outcome of your visit today Cheryl? I hope it went well, but spill already!!!:confused:

[Av8rgirl]

Here's an update on my visit with the ENT doc this morning!

I have a black right eye!

He said that my right sinus is completely blocked, nothing to do with the deviated septum (which is inconsequential at this point) but from the infection! He has this really neat scope with these really neat glasses that you wear so you can watch what he's doing up your nose!

I knew everyone would appreciate that! I cannot believe how swollen my nostril is...gross!

But really cool looking up there!

Anyway, bottom line is that I am going to do a double whammy of antibiotics for 10 days, repeat the CT Scan and then if this infection isn't cleared up...yep you guessed it, surgery. He's thinking surgery anyway but wants the infection cleared up.

He will only do the right side b/c there isn't any sign of sinus disease on the left, at least at this point.

So...now I get to try a new antibiotic, two new ones! Yeah. I don't do well with new drugs! This is one I have never tried before...

*looking around house for benadryl*

The rest of the story is that the study doc wants to see me on Wed, a week early about my new symptoms, unless of course, the antibiotics kick in and I feel better by Monday. Great...NOT!!!

[Av8rgirl]

WELL? What was the outcome of your visit today Cheryl? I hope it went well, but spill already!!!:confused:

Oh Missy Impatient!!! I just did!!! ;)

Got snow???

[Chris]

Here's an update on my visit with the ENT doc this morning!

I have a black right eye! Is that from the sinuses, or from PODH?

He said that my right sinus is completely blocked, nothing to do with the deviated septum (which is inconsequential at this point) but from the infection! He has this really neat scope with these really neat glasses that you wear so you can watch what he's doing up your nose! I just ate!:o

I knew everyone would appreciate that! I cannot believe how swollen my nostril is...gross!

But really cool looking up there! How many people would get a kick out of looking up one's nose?:D

Anyway, bottom line is that I am going to do a double whammy of antibiotics for 10 days, repeat the CT Scan and then if this infection isn't cleared up...yep you guessed it, surgery. He's thinking surgery anyway but wants the infection cleared up.

He will only do the right side b/c there isn't any sign of sinus disease on the left, at least at this point.

So...now I get to try a new antibiotic, two new ones! Yeah. I don't do well with new drugs! This is one I have never tried before...

*looking around house for benadryl*

The rest of the story is that the study doc wants to see me on Wed, a week early about my new symptoms, unless of course, the antibiotics kick in and I feel better by Monday. Great...NOT!!!

I'm glad he's not rushing you into anything, Cheryl. Which antibiotic is he trying you on this time? I truly hope this helps. I do know that often sinusitus needs to be treated for a good 3-6 weeks before results can be evaluated.

FEEL BETTER!!!:hug:

[Chris]

Got snow???

No, just cold weather.:mad: I'll bet you've got your share of snow!:p

[AfterMyNap]

Oh man. Take all of 'em tonight! You need to feel better, it's been months!:mad:

You said you didn't want that surgery, so you changed your mind?

[SallyC]

Wow, Cheryl. TMI, but ugh, that is just awful for you. I hope the new ABs work their magic and clear up your infection, so Doc can clean your cavities..:p

I'm keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you..:hug:

[Av8rgirl]

I'm glad he's not rushing you into anything, Cheryl. Which antibiotic is he trying you on this time? I truly hope this helps. I do know that often sinusitus needs to be treated for a good 3-6 weeks before results can be evaluated.

FEEL BETTER!!!:hug:

I have a black right eye! Is that from the sinuses, or from PODH?
No, not from PODH --- it's from the sinus pressure!


But really cool looking up there! How many people would get a kick out of looking up one's nose?:D
Probably only those of us who have worked in the medical field or those of us who have a warped sense of humor! Or are easily entertained!

I am on Avelox/oral and Mupirocin ointment with the saline flush (boy! is that fun!)

Rushing into anything???? I guess in the big picture, you are right! I just so tired of being sick. This guy has several patients with MS and has a good grasp of the disease...thank goodness! A lot of insight into the infection issue. That was refreshing not to have to explain the infection aspect of MS...great guy!

[Av8rgirl]

Oh man. Take all of 'em tonight! You need to feel better, it's been months!:mad:

You said you didn't want that surgery, so you changed your mind?

No I haven't changed my mind...he's going to have to CONVINCE ME that it's necessary...right now I am doing everything to make it NOT necessary.

[Koala77]

.... Probably only those of us who have worked in the medical field or those of us who have a warped sense of humor! Or are easily entertained!

:D:D:D I can relate to that (another ex-nurse here)!

I hope the antibiotics do their thing, and you don't need surgery.

Big, (but gentle) hugs coming you way! :hug:

[Chris]

Avelox is quite an excellent antibiotic. It does take a while to work it's way into the system. MUPIROCIN? Does he think you may have a Staph infection?:eek: Did he take cultures from the back of your nose?

[Av8rgirl]

Avelox is quite an excellent antibiotic. It does take a while to work it's way into the system. MUPIROCIN? Does he think you may have a Staph infection?:eek: Did he take cultures from the back of your nose?

He took a culture...that's why the black eye...that was NOT fun...but it was fun watching!

No he doesn't think I have a Staph infection. The one he wanted to use I am allergic to..this was the next best option!

My list of allergies is a mile long!

Yep the pharmacist said Avelox was pretty good ABX...no dairy products with it tho....

[Av8rgirl]

:D:D:D I can relate to that (another ex-nurse here)!

I hope the antibiotics do their thing, and you don't need surgery.

Big, (but gentle) hugs coming you way! :hug:


Thanks Anne...gentle hugs back to you!

I read your thread...I had a basal cell removed from the side of my face last summer! I get those things on my back all the time but this one was pretty nasty on my face.

We all laughed about it cuz it looks like I have half a face lift!!

[Riverwild]

(oh man, how did I miss this thread???)


Oh Flygirlie?


EEEEEEeeewwww! Where's the leetle green faced emoticon?

Will PODH be home if you have a reaction to the meds?

I am sosooo glad that you got in to see the doc and that you are getting some help with this! It's been going on too long!!:mad:

[Av8rgirl]

(oh man, how did I miss this thread???) been busy shoveling snow and closing your curtains!!!


Oh Flygirlie?


EEEEEEeeewwww! Where's the leetle green faced emoticon?

Will PODH be home if you have a reaction to the meds? yeah, he's home.

I am sosooo glad that you got in to see the doc and that you are getting some help with this! It's been going on too long!!:mad:

Me too....ready for the crapola to be OVER!!!!

[Taffy]

So is it true? When you looked up your nose could you see your brains? All my little kids need to know if you really can pick your brains out!:D

Oh...you just to blow the snot out of your sinuses. Now blow!:D

Seriously, sorry you got a black eye and I hope the new drugs do the trick! We need you to get well!

[Av8rgirl]

So is it true? When you looked up your nose could you see your brains? All my little kids need to know if you really can pick your brains out!:D

Oh...you just to blow the snot out of your sinuses. Now blow!:D

Seriously, sorry you got a black eye and I hope the new drugs do the trick! We need you to get well!

I don't know Taffy...It hurt too much and the metal thingies he was using weren't quite long enough! But there was this hole...

:thud:

I think I just lost Tippy....

Someone get the smelling salts and wave them around ...

Oh Taffy? Taffy? You there????

Sorry!

Good news. I've taken the new antibiotic. 20 minutes and I can still breathe and no rash...yet!

:D

[Taffy]

Oh...that's ok....was any blood involved? Now that would be a different story!

Side note* You shoulda seen some of the diapers I had to change today! OMG!:eek: The change their whole clothes, sting your eyes, and choke kind! Lots of fun! :Hum::Noooo:

[Av8rgirl]

Oh...that's ok....was any blood involved? Now that would be a different story!

Side note* You shoulda seen some of the diapers I had to change today! OMG!:eek: The change their whole clothes, sting your eyes, and choke kind! Lots of fun! :Hum::Noooo:

Thanks for that visual Taffy! I am glad I was doing what I was doing and you were doing what you were doing!

No trading today! I don't do diapers...nope...not me!

I do blood...but not diapers!

[Taffy]

Thanks for that visual Taffy! I am glad I was doing what I was doing and you were doing what you were doing!

No trading today! I don't do diapers...nope...not me!

I do blood...but not diapers!

Great! I will call you the next time one them picks their brains and it starts to bleed! "Here kid have some tissue while I ......:thud:" Nah! I just stick the whole box of tissue on their face and then I don't have to see a thing!

Hope the drugs are starting to kick in. Do you feel any different? Are you getting anything outta there yet?

(She probably will be descriptive if she does!:D)

[Av8rgirl]

Great! I will call you the next time one them picks their brains and it starts to bleed! "Here kid have some tissue while I ......:thud:" Nah! I just stick the whole box of tissue on their face and then I don't have to see a thing!

Hope the drugs are starting to kick in. Do you feel any different? Are you getting anything outta there yet?

(She probably will be descriptive if she does!:D)

Nothing yet...but since you asked, I will be sure to be descriptive when it does (as long as there is no blood!)

[lady_express_44]

So your sinus infection is in your upper sinuses, Cheryl?

When I had the broken nose (before surgery to correct that), my sinus passages up there were completely cut off, so they wouldn't drain. At one point I had an infection that was actually causing pressure on my brain, hence the reason they had to operate virtually right away.

You aren't having problems with your cheek sinuses though, right (that was my second operation)?

I am so thankful I had both of those procedures done though.

Cherie

[Av8rgirl]

So your sinus infection is in your upper sinuses, Cheryl?

When I had the broken nose (before surgery to correct that), my sinus passages up there were completely cut off, so they wouldn't drain. At one point I had an infection that was actually causing pressure on my brain, hence the reason they had to operate virtually right away.

You aren't having problems with your cheek sinuses though, right (that was my second operation)?

I am so thankful I had both of those procedures done though.

Cherie

Cherie

The reason for the black eye is the pressure on my cheek sinus passage as well as the area above my eye. (and probably his probing and suctioning yesterday!)

His comment was that the whole right side was completely blocked. I assume he meant the entire right side and not just one part. I didn't get into with him as I didn't want to take up too much more of his time since he was working me into his schedule. I will know more at the next appt.

Right now I am just following this new protocol and hoping these ABX do the job. Surgery is NOT high on my list of favorite things.

[SallyC]

I hope all your meds work and you are feeling better soon, Cheryl. I feel bad for you..:( :hug:

Did Holly get her stitches out? How's she doing? <pat pat>

[Av8rgirl]

I hope all your meds work and you are feeling better soon, Cheryl. I feel bad for you..:( :hug:

Did Holly get her stitches out? How's she doing? <pat pat>

Thanks Sally...seem to be doing a little better this morning, except for this black eye! Looks kind of funny! LOL!

Holly got her staples out on Thursday and is doing just fine! Vet said she is 100%!

[AfterMyNap]

You shakin' that thing off yet, woman?

[Av8rgirl]

You shakin' that thing off yet, woman?

I am feeling a bit better! Went out for a bit today. First time in a while! Let's see how I do tomorrow!!!

;)

[lady_express_44]

Right now I am just following this new protocol and hoping these ABX do the job. Surgery is NOT high on my list of favorite things.

Yep, I'm with you on that and I hope the antibiotics do it too! What's special about this rx, vs. what you've been using since Nov? (Some do work better then others, for sure...)

What's the rest of the protocol though (must have missed that posting)? :confused:

Cherie

[Av8rgirl]

Yep, I'm with you on that and I hope the antibiotics do it too! What's special about this rx, vs. what you've been using since Nov? (Some do work better then others, for sure...)

What's the rest of the protocol though (must have missed that posting)? :confused:

Cherie

He added an antibiotic to the saline flush along with the oral antibiotic.

[Koala77]

Pleased to hear you're having a better day today, and I do hope you continue to improve. Hugs from Oz. :hug:

[Av8rgirl]

Pleased to hear you're having a better day today, and I do hope you continue to improve. Hugs from Oz. :hug:

Thanks Anne...that means a lot.


You know, I don't know if you know this or not, but I've been to Oz...we were talking about that at dinner tonight with some friends! I want to come back down there for another visit! I loved it there!

[Koala77]

Thanks Anne...that means a lot.


You know, I don't know if you know this or not, but I've been to Oz...we were talking about that at dinner tonight with some friends! I want to come back down there for another visit! I loved it there!


I glad you had a wonderful time while you were here. A return visit would be so-o-o fabulous! I can't wait to one day meet some of the wonderful people I've "met" on-line.

I hope you're continuing to improve, and your black eye is looking a bit better now. Mine are fading, although my cheek bones still look very swollen & puffy.

We must both look a proper mess! :D

[Av8rgirl]

I glad you had a wonderful time while you were here. A return visit would be so-o-o fabulous! I can't wait to one day meet some of the wonderful people I've "met" on-line.

I hope you're continuing to improve, and your black eye is looking a bit better now. Mine are fading, although my cheek bones still look very swollen & puffy.



We must both look a proper mess! :D

Mine is fading a bit...mostly red now! Glad you are doing better! We would make quite the pair!

I do want to come back downunder for a visit. I correspond with someone I met who lives in Queenland.

I loved Syndey and Brisbane!

[Koala77]

Mine is fading a bit...mostly red now! Glad you are doing better! We would make quite the pair!

I do want to come back downunder for a visit. I correspond with someone I met who lives in Queenland.

I loved Syndey and Brisbane!

We lived in QLD about 3 years ago....about 4 hours north by car from Brisbane, then we moved to NSW, about the same distance north from Sydney. We've just moved again, and have no intention of moving again for quite some time!

[Jappy]

Cheryl :) Hope you are doing better today. Also how is Holly today.

Sage is doing good. No problem with the licking of the
stitches.

Tomorrow want to hear goooooood news.

Jappy :hug:

[Av8rgirl]

Cheryl :) Hope you are doing better today. Also how is Holly today.

Sage is doing good. No problem with the licking of the
stitches.

Tomorrow want to hear goooooood news.

Jappy :hug:

Holly is good as new! Never would know she had surgery if you couldn't see her scar!

Glad to hear that Sage is doing well!

Now, you take care of yourself! No more falling!

I think the worst of my health issues are now behind me! This antibiotic seems to be doing the trick! Thank goodness! ;)

[Riverwild]

Holly is good as new! Never would know she had surgery if you couldn't see her scar!

Glad to hear that Sage is doing well!

Now, you take care of yourself! No more falling!

I think the worst of my health issues are now behind me! This antibiotic seems to be doing the trick! Thank goodness! ;)

I just counted and it's somewhere around 70 days since you first got sick!! It's about freakin' TIME you felt better!!!!

[FlyFishin Momma]

Cheryl..........
I know many will NOT want to read your reply to this..but how in the world did you do the nasty flush???
My DH does it in the shower but I can hear him gagging and spitting....YUCK!!!!!!!
I tried it over the weekend and ended up throwing up.it gaged me so bad.........and I felt like I had got water in my nose at the swimming pool....I was misserable afterwards and couldnt sleep for a long time........

There has got to be a "trick" or an "easy way" to doing this........does it "REALLY" work? I mean to make you be able to breath and feel better???????
My DR said it may take a few times to get the saline mixture to my liking......I would just LIKE to never even try it again.........uuugghhhh........it burned so bad and I just have it in my head now that I dont wanna do it..........

I am so proud of you for doing it...........
and glad to hear your feelin better.........
You opend a can of whipp snot on it didnt ya????

[DM]

Hey FG!!!! Top o' the mornin to ya! Oh, forgot, I'm in NC, not Ireland!

I had to read to catch up on how your'e doing! Man oh man~ That's some gross stuff you've been subjected to. I am glad you are creeping back up from the pile of doo doo that you've felt like for so long.

I am praying for you to get back to your old self soon. I just finished my 2nd round of antibiotics and I don't want that sinus mess back either.

Glad Holly is all better too. Feel better my friend. :hug:

[Taffy]

I was so worried that those antibiotics would do a # on you and send you to the ER! But yeah! Write the name of those ones down! They are doing the job! Get well and stay well!

(Pat Holly on the head and give her a treat!)

[Av8rgirl]

I was so worried that those antibiotics would do a # on you and send you to the ER! But yeah! Write the name of those ones down! They are doing the job! Get well and stay well!

(Pat Holly on the head and give her a treat!)

and you know what? Only have to take ONE per day, and they aren't HUGE HORSE PILLS and they don't upset my stomach! I like this one!!! ;)

[Taffy]

and you know what? Only have to take ONE per day, and they aren't HUGE HORSE PILLS and they don't upset my stomach! I like this one!!! ;)

What? How cool! What are these again? Sounds like a great one! Perfect!

[Av8rgirl]

What? How cool! What are these again? Sounds like a great one! Perfect!

It's called Avelox. It's new to me! I'd never heard of it before!

[Av8rgirl]

Got the results of the culture today!

It's a staph infection!!! Who asked me about the antibiotic I was on? Yep, it's for staph alright. Ick!!!

[SallyC]

Ooo Ick, is right. Well, I'm glad you seem to have it licked, so to speak, for now.:p

[Av8rgirl]

Ooo Ick, is right. Well, I'm glad you seem to have it licked, so to speak, for now.:p

Thanks Sally! Cannot believe I have a staph infection! :(

[SallyC]

Thanks Sally! Cannot believe I have a staph infection! :(

Maybe PODH is a carrier..ROTFL.:p

[Taffy]

Well, they have the right drug for it then!

(Musta been from sticking all those peas up your nose!):D

[Av8rgirl]

You guys are funny!

Especially Sally! PODH asked me if I could give IT to HIM! LOL! Don't I wish....

[DM]

YIKES FG!! That's nothing to mess around with, so glad you got a good med. I hope you are feeling better; poor thing!!

*spraying lysol on pc, donning mask and rubber gloves*

OK, I'm ready! :D

Feel better bud!!!:)
Oh, I'm sending over my personal physician's to take a look at ya, but you can't keep them. I have an appt w/them ~~~~later... :D


http://dl7.glitter-graphics.net/pub/57/57367wnuwhvc19p.jpg (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[Av8rgirl]

YIKES FG!! That's nothing to mess around with, so glad you got a good med. I hope you are feeling better; poor thing!!

*spraying lysol on pc, donning mask and rubber gloves*

OK, I'm ready! :D

Feel better bud!!!:)
Oh, I'm sending over my personal physician's to take a look at ya, but you can't keep them. I have an appt w/them ~~~~later... :D


http://dl7.glitter-graphics.net/pub/57/57367wnuwhvc19p.jpg (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

Thanks DM! You are so nice to me! Can we share??

I am doing better. Still have a long way to go, but at least I can breathe again! I just need to get past the appt next week with the neuro.

[Riverwild]

oh myyyyy...i DO like that picture!!

May I ask what kind of doctors they are? >WEG<

[DM]

oh myyyyy...i DO like that picture!!

May I ask what kind of doctors they are? >WEG<



OB/GYN'S...:D:D:D:D

Oh dear, I'm due for an appt! :D

How ya feeling today FG???

[Av8rgirl]

OB/GYN'S...:D:D:D:D

Oh dear, I'm due for an appt! :D

How ya feeling today FG???

If those guys are GYN docs, big trouble!

I am really tired. Had a bad day yesterday. Staying in bed today.

[Chris]

Got the results of the culture today!

It's a staph infection!!! Who asked me about the antibiotic I was on? Yep, it's for staph alright. Ick!!!

I'm glad they got your culture results and that you are on the correct antibiotic. I had a suspicion that it was Staph. I hope you start to feel better soon, Cheryl. Staph can set up some nasty infections that are difficult to treat.:mad: But, it sounds like your physician was on the right track from the start. Here's hoping the Avelox and the Bactroban do the trick!:)

[Av8rgirl]

I'm glad they got your culture results and that you are on the correct antibiotic. I had a suspicion that it was Staph. I hope you start to feel better soon, Cheryl. Staph can set up some nasty infections that are difficult to treat.:mad: But, it sounds like your physician was on the right track from the start. Here's hoping the Avelox and the Bactroban do the trick!:)

Thanks Chris. When you mentioned staph, I thought, no way. How does one get staph in their sinus. I am still wondering that! But with me, anything is possible!

[SallyC]

Thanks Chris. When you mentioned staph, I thought, no way. How does one get staph in their sinus. I am still wondering that! But with me, anything is possible!

Can't some people carry the staph germ in their noses? I heard that somewhere?

I hope you rest and feel better today, Cheryl..:hug:

[Av8rgirl]

Can't some people carry the staph germ in their noses? I heard that somewhere?

I hope you rest and feel better today, Cheryl..:hug:

I think you are right Sal...thanks!

;)

[DM]

Tucking our lil sweet PEA into bed.

REST FG!!!

*making her split pea soup to make her feel better* She'll LOVE it!:D

http://dl6.glitter-graphics.net/pub/87/87126jslwqic4mb.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)


Here, let me cool you down w/a cool rag and this new soap. hehe

[AfterMyNap]

Oh, dm, you are so gonna get it for that!








I wanna help! She needs a jolly good helping of Mushy peas!

[Av8rgirl]

Tucking our lil sweet PEA into bed.

REST FG!!!

*making her split pea soup to make her feel better* She'll LOVE it!:D

http://dl6.glitter-graphics.net/pub/87/87126jslwqic4mb.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)


Here, let me cool you down w/a cool rag and this new soap. hehe

WE DON'T TALK ABOUT PEAS HERE!

now where's the swatter.... oh yeah, here it is...smash!

[DM]

PEAS, err I mean Please don't swat me FG!! :D

[Av8rgirl]

PEAS, err I mean Please don't swat me FG!! :D


You're pushing it DM! Making me sicker...oh the pain! the pain! My head hurts!

[Chris]

Can't some people carry the staph germ in their noses? I heard that somewhere?

I hope you rest and feel better today, Cheryl..:hug:

Yes, Sally. That is the most common place where "carriers' have Staph. Being a carrier means that you are not actively infected with the infection, however you do carry the bacteria in your system, with the nasal-pharynx being the most common. Community acquired Staph infection and carrier state has become a HUGE problem in this country in the past 10 years or so.

[Av8rgirl]

Yes, Sally. That is the most common place where "carriers' have Staph. Being a carrier means that you are not actively infected with the infection, however you do carry the bacteria in your system, with the nasal-pharynx being the most common. Community acquired Staph infection and carrier state has become a HUGE problem in this country in the past 10 years or so.

But, HOW did I go from being a carrier to infected? That's the question. Guess I need to ask the doc. He probably doesn't know either. Mystery.

[Chris]

You may have had another infection and became superinfected. Hadn't you been on a bunch of other antibiotics prior to developing this Staph infection? If so, they may have decreased your immunities and let the Staph infect you. You may want to ask your ENT for an Infectious Disease consult if indeed you are not feeling better in another few days. They deal with MRSA or "Methicillin Resistent Staph Aureus" infections all the time.

I recently read a journal article that said that almost 1/3 of the general population are carriers for Staph. I don't know if the Tovaxin has anything to do with it; perhaps that is something you may want to bring up with your Clinical Trial docs.

[Taffy]

Here is a pic of FG the other day after her Dr. visit!


http://dl8.glitter-graphics.net/pub/149/149238snsfrazguo.jpg (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[Av8rgirl]

You may have had another infection and became superinfected. Hadn't you been on a bunch of other antibiotics prior to developing this Staph infection? If so, they may have decreased your immunities and let the Staph infect you. You may want to ask your ENT for an Infectious Disease consult if indeed you are not feeling better in another few days. They deal with MRSA or "Methicillin Resistent Staph Aureus" infections all the time.

I recently read a journal article that said that almost 1/3 of the general population are carriers for Staph. I don't know if the Tovaxin has anything to do with it; perhaps that is something you may want to bring up with your Clinical Trial docs.

I see the clinical trial doc on Tuesday. He's got the culture results and I am sure he will discuss it with me. I also have a follow up appt with the ENT doc on the 11th.

There is an excellent ID doc here in town so if I need follow up with him, I can request that.

My last Tovaxin vaccine was Sept 11th.

[DM]

Oh FG??? Are you still in Portland? Are you snowed in somewhere?

How are you feeling? Come back and report!!!

(on the double, Missy)

[soxmom]

inquiring minds would like to know.:) How did things go Cheryl?

I hope you are well,

Soxmom

[Av8rgirl]

I got home late last night...around 1130 pm...tired...very tired. Just now checking in here.

Long day yesterday!

We got 4 inches of snow overnight, but the sun is shining today and it looks real pretty out! I am staying today to catch up on sleep, email, paperwork and sleep.

Sinus carp is still there. I did handle the flying ok for the most part. Had some trouble clearing my ears on the Portland to Salt Lake flight - sea level to elevation...not fun! But I am ok.

Had coffee with myscrewsbeloose yesterday. She sat with me while I waited to be called for my MRI. She is such a hoot! She brought me coffee to keep me awake! I was really dragging after the busy morning and all the blood draw...:eek:

Barely made it to the airport for my flight. Flight left at 5:15. I got to the airport at 4:45! I like those close calls!

And TSA rearranged by suitcase again. They are certainly bad packers...I think someone needs to have suitcase packing class for those guys. :p:p:p

Thanks for checking on me! ;)

[DM]

*jumping up and down*

So glad your'e home. Now, put your feet up.:hug:

Holly! Go get Momma her slippers.

Here's a drink for ya. *taking it back and chugging it*

Sorry FG~ your'e on meds...:D


my bad:D

[SallyC]

Glad you're back home, safe and sound, dear one. Take it easy for a bit and let PODH wait on you for a change.:p Holly is in recovery herownself....Pat, Pat, Pat.

How is the study going? Do you think you're on the real thing and if so, is it helping you? When will it be over?

:hug:

[Av8rgirl]

Glad you're back home, safe and sound, dear one. Take it easy for a bit and let PODH wait on you for a change.:p Holly is in recovery herownself....Pat, Pat, Pat.

How is the study going? Do you think you're on the real thing and if so, is it helping you? When will it be over?

:hug:

Sally's funny...:thud:

As for the study, I had my last vaccine shot on 9/21. I am just doing blood draws, MRIs and neuro exams now. I have no idea whether I was getting placebo or real thing. My last appt in this phase is 4/1/08 which will also be the screening appt for the next phase.

How am I feeling? Loaded question since I've had this sinus infection but the study doc seemed to be pleased with my neuro exam yesterday so I guess all is well :D

[Riverwild]

Glad to hear you are home and safe! The weather's been so weird lately, I am worried about everyone who hasn't checked in! :grouphug:

Now get some rest will ya???

[Jappy]

Glad that you are home and safe. :hug:

Now rest :Zzzz:

Jappy

[DM]

Is she sleeping?

Let's talk about her.

Did you know that FG... *whisper* and SHE pssst...pssssst..

:D:D:D:D

[Taffy]

How many times does she have to mention the draw thingy? :eek::thud:

Glad FG made it home safe! Miss you!

[DM]

http://dl8.glitter-graphics.net/pub/273/273218g1hv8ighrq.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

Don't mention BLOOD around Tiffy!

[Av8rgirl]

Update on my ongoing sinus infection saga!

I saw the ENT specialist today for a repeat CT scan ... woohoo good news! Sinus infection is all gone. He said, see those big black areas? That's air. We like air! Air is good! Yeah, I have lots of air.

I still have a bit of a cough and some stuffiness so he kept on the Avelox antibiotic for another 10 days and said to call him if I have anymore problems.

NO SINUS SURGERY!! :Bow::Excited::Excited::Head-Spin::Dancing-Chilli::Dancing-Chilli::Trapeze 2:

[Taffy]

Finally, some good news!:D

Do you feel better too?

I hope it stays away this time......

[Koala77]

.....................NO SINUS SURGERY!! :Bow::Excited::Excited::Head-Spin::Dancing-Chilli::Dancing-Chilli::Trapeze 2:


YAY! :Excited: That's excellent news and I'm so pleased for you. :D

Now all you have to do is concentrate on getting better. :partytime2:

[Riverwild]

YAY!!! No Surgery!!! No surgery is GOOD! AIR is GOOD!!!:hug:

Glad you are feeling better and breathing!





(still though...hearing about surgery in excruciating detail whilst sitting across from Tiffy would have been a HOOT! ):thud:

:ROTFLMAO::ROTFLMAO::ROTFLMAO::ROTFLMAO::ROTFLMAO:

[Jappy]

:D:D Great Great No Surgery :Trapeze 2:

SMELL THE AIRRRRRRR
TAKE IT ALL IN :Yawn:

Hope that you will keep on feeling better. :hug:

Jappy

[Gazelle]

I saw the ENT specialist today for a repeat CT scan ... woohoo good news! Sinus infection is all gone. He said, see those big black areas? That's air. We like air! Air is good! Yeah, I have lots of air.


Yeah, I can tell you where you have a LOT of air.... :hit-safe:

But that's good news--No Surgery! YAY! Knives v. no knives. Now I understand that might be a hard decision for some people, but the majority will take no knives over knives anyday!

[DM]

*crossing my fingers for ya Cheryl! You have had your share of that mess, so NO MORE>

Guess what?? Neuro told DD today that her MRI showed that her sinus's are a mess and causing alot of pressure and he suggested surgery.

She said NO WAY. SPRING PLEASE COME SOOOOOOON!

So glad your'e better FG...
:hug::hug::hug::hug:

[Taffy]

(still though...hearing about surgery in excruciating detail whilst sitting across from Tiffy would have been a HOOT! ):thud:

:ROTFLMAO::ROTFLMAO::ROTFLMAO::ROTFLMAO::ROTFLMAO:

River Dear....bend down here!:mad:


Smack!

[Riverwild]

River Dear....bend down here!:mad:


Smack!


*snicker* :p

missed...:hit-safe:

:OuttaHere:

[DM]

http://dl3.glitter-graphics.net/pub/470/470423isrfi7qlsd.jpg (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

Come on FG... Give us the GORY details!!:eek:

[ewizabeth]

Hooray for empty sinuses!!! I'm glad you're feeling better Cheryl! :hug: And no surgery is excellent news! :)

[Riverwild]

http://dl3.glitter-graphics.net/pub/470/470423isrfi7qlsd.jpg (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

Come on FG... Give us the GORY details!!:eek:

ROFL at that pic! ( or is it pick when it comes to noses?)

Is Tiffy still alive over there?:thud:

( insert mutley type laugh here! )

[Av8rgirl]

Thanks everyone...been so busy doing the "I am a florist" thing this week I haven't even been online since Monday afternoon!

Yeah, no surgery is good.

I will be GLAD WHEN VALENTINE'S DAY IS OVER!!!

[SallyC]

Thanks everyone...been so busy doing the "I am a florist" thing this week I haven't even been online since Monday afternoon!

Yeah, no surgery is good.

I will be GLAD WHEN VALENTINE'S DAY IS OVER!!!

I take it, you have a greenhouse..:eek:

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, empty sinuses. Now, at least, you can smell those flowers.:D

:hug:

[Av8rgirl]

I take it, you have a greenhouse..:eek:

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, empty sinuses. Now, at least, you can smell those flowers.:D

:hug:
No, I help out a friend who owns a floral shop.

I help her on holidays. Valentine's Day, Mother's Day, Thanksgiving-Christmas. Valentine's Day is by far the busiest!

Ah yes, empty sinuses! Yes. :D

[SallyC]

No, I help out a friend who owns a floral shop.

I help her on holidays. Valentine's Day, Mother's Day, Thanksgiving-Christmas. Valentine's Day is by far the busiest!

Ah yes, empty sinuses! Yes. :D

I really meant Ahhhhhhh instead of Awwwwww..:rolleyes: Duh..:D

[Av8rgirl]

I am sort of getting my act back together and slowly catching up with all of you, but I am so far behind I know I will never catch up.

I hope everyone is doing ok and had a good week! I am still so very tired from all the week's activities that I need a nap. And the fall I took has taken its toll on my left leg. It really hurts.

So, I will catch up some more later!

[DM]

*fluffing Cheryl's pillow*

There you go... Now take a lil nappy and we'll catch ya on the flip side.

I said "Close those eyes"!!!!
:Yawn::Zzzz::Zzzz::)

[AfterMyNap]

*fluffing Cheryl's pillow*

There you go... Now take a lil nappy and we'll catch ya on the flip side.

I said "Close those eyes"!!!!
:Yawn::Zzzz::Zzzz::)

*slapping FG's hands*

PUT ME DOWN!:mad:

She said, "Take a lil nappy" NOT "Take Nappy"!!!!!!:Bang-Head::mf_swordfight:

[Taffy]

Cleaning ears with Q-tip... ok...WHAT FALL? WHEN DID YOU FALL? I MISSED IT! PUT THAT LAPTOP ON YOUR LAP AND TYPE AWAY!

SORRY YOU FELL!:hug:

NOW FOR THE STORY OR AT LEAST...TELL ME WHERE I MISSED READING IT AT, PLEASE!

[Riverwild]

Cleaning ears with Q-tip... ok...WHAT FALL? WHEN DID YOU FALL? I MISSED IT! PUT THAT LAPTOP ON YOUR LAP AND TYPE AWAY!

SORRY YOU FELL!:hug:

NOW FOR THE STORY OR AT LEAST...TELL ME WHERE I MISSED READING IT AT, PLEASE!

I am with Taffy! I must have missed this one! When did you fall and where from?:eek:

[Av8rgirl]

Wednesday. I was helping out with some flower deliveries to the airport and the parking lot at the Forest Service was a sheet of black ice. I stepped out of my truck and bam! down I went.

Thank goodness I didn't have the two vases of Red Roses in my hands when I went down. I picked myself up, got back in my truck and moved it so a better spot before I even attempted to deliver the flowers.

I have a nice huge bruise on my left hip and sore left arm. Other than that, I am ok.

I have been so busy, I guess I forgot to post about it. Sorry gang. It's been a very busy week with Valentine's Day, the floral truck burning up, and the UPS didn't deliver our flowers on Thursday AT ALL!! Very interesting week!

[MSacorn]

Awww Cheryl, I feel your pain. Hope you heal quickly. TG VD day is a year away. Take Care.

:hug:

[Av8rgirl]

Awww Cheryl, I feel your pain. Hope you heal quickly. TG VD day is a year away. Take Care.

:hug:

Thanks Beth. I will be ok. I just don't fall that often! It surprised me more than anything else!

:hug:

[Riverwild]

Jeez! I'd say something about crashing but I know that is NOT in an aviatrix's vocabulary!

Glad to hear you are doing ok!

We have the whole ice thing happening here too. I took a ride up Rt. 95 to the Canadian border yesterday to pick up # 2 for his school vacation and there was ice on everything. It was beautiful but there are trees snapped off all the way up a 20 mile or so stretch of the highway.

My driveway is a 1/4 mile sheet of ice and we have the whole snow/rain/freeze expected again tonight...grrrrr. I'm scattering wood ashes in hopes of at least thawing a trail to the cars!

[Taffy]

Dang! It is the days after that are the worst! Heal up!

[Jappy]

Hope that today you are feeling better and that no other bruises show
up. Like Taf said it is the day and days after when you see how much
you hurt yourself.

Be extra careful because I believe we are still in for some rough
weather. :eek:


Jappy :hug:

[SallyC]

Hope that today you are feeling better and that no other bruises show
up. Like Taf said it is the day and days after when you see how much
you hurt yourself.

Be extra careful because I believe we are still in for some rough
weather. :eek:

Jappy:hug:

Yeah, we had a mini blizzard yesterday. Today the sun is shining and snow melting.

Feel better Cheryl and all..:grouphug:

[Av8rgirl]

Thanks everyone. You are all right, it IS the days after the fall that suck. My leg has all these really pretty colors but it will soon fade. It's not quite so sore and I can move it much better now! My left arm doesn't hurt quite so much either!

I am just glad I wasn't holding the 2 vases of red roses. I think that would have been a much worse disaster! Flygirl and 2 dozen roses, broken glass and water and greens all over the parking lot...I can see it now! Yikes! Flying roses --- maybe I would have had to change my user name! :eek:

[ewizabeth]

Are you sure you didn't break anything Cheryl? I'm sorry about your fall! :hug:

[BaxterTheBunny]

Thanks everyone. You are all right, it IS the days after the fall that suck. My leg has all these really pretty colors but it will soon fade. It's not quite so sore and I can move it much better now! My left arm doesn't hurt quite so much either!

I am just glad I wasn't holding the 2 vases of red roses. I think that would have been a much worse disaster! Flygirl and 2 dozen roses, broken glass and water and greens all over the parking lot...I can see it now! Yikes! Flying roses --- maybe I would have had to change my user name! :eek:

Wow, you're right. Could have been much worse. Glad you're okay and nothing broke.

Glad you don't have to have surgery either.

Hope you're feeling better soon :hug:

Kim

[Koala77]

........... My leg has all these really pretty colors but it will soon fade. It's not quite so sore and I can move it much better now! My left arm doesn't hurt quite so much either! :


Oh dear FG.

I've had many a fall now and each time I seem to break something different...except my sacrum....that's the big bone at the base of the spine and the start of the pelvis. I've broken that one twice the past few years! Are you sure nothing is broken?

Major hugs coming your way, and I do hope your soreness eases soon.

http://dl2.glitter-graphics.net/pub/825/825842v0qxmg9m9v.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[Av8rgirl]

Oh dear FG.

I've had many a fall now and each time I seem to break something different...except my sacrum....that's the big bone at the base of the spine and the start of the pelvis. I've broken that one twice the past few years! Are you sure nothing is broken?

Major hugs coming your way, and I do hope your soreness eases soon.

http://dl2.glitter-graphics.net/pub/825/825842v0qxmg9m9v.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

Thanks Anne! I need some free hugs...shoot I take some hugs and pay for them! LOL! ;) Don't tell Taffy, she'll be begging for Chocolate! :p

Thanks Wiz and Kim! I didn't break anything and I am GLAD I don't have to have surgery either! Keep your fingers crossed that the infection doesn't come back. 2 days off antibiotics and so far so good....

[Gazelle]

Thanks Anne! I need some free hugs...shoot I take some hugs and pay for them! LOL! ;) Don't tell Taffy, she'll be begging for Chocolate! :p

Thanks Wiz and Kim! I didn't break anything and I am GLAD I don't have to have surgery either! Keep your fingers crossed that the infection doesn't come back. 2 days off antibiotics and so far so good....


Sure, sure, sure.... get rid of the antibiotics and ya need something else to garner sympathy with. :holysheep: :Poke: :D

Arnica gel, Flygurl. Arnica Gel. I hear it's GREAT for bruising. Try epsom salts for the soreness too.

Maybe you need to go back, get the roses, and then take a beautiful rose/bruise photo for posterity. You could make that your avatar--the plane buzzing the rose/bruise thang. Modern art......... :cool:

Maybe it's time for a new career--landscape bruise photography. (not only does it feature plants, but you can print them in "landscape" too)

Lots of love,

the Hairy Chicken

[SandyC]

Wow, I leave for a week and all heck breaks loose! Cheryl, I knew you liked flying but don't you think this takes it a little too far? And at the airport to top it all off! I hope your fly buddies didn't see you...lol

Seriously, I hope your on the mend and feel better soon. Epson salt is great for bruising and muscle aches.

[Jappy]

Hi Cheryl

Hope you are feeling better today.

Here is another hug to make things go away. :hug::hug:


Jappy :)

[Riverwild]

Sure, sure, sure.... get rid of the antibiotics and ya need something else to garner sympathy with. :holysheep: :Poke: :D

Arnica gel, Flygurl. Arnica Gel. I hear it's GREAT for bruising. Try epsom salts for the soreness too.

Maybe you need to go back, get the roses, and then take a beautiful rose/bruise photo for posterity. You could make that your avatar--the plane buzzing the rose/bruise thang. Modern art......... :cool:

Maybe it's time for a new career--landscape bruise photography. (not only does it feature plants, but you can print them in "landscape" too)

Lots of love,

the Hairy Chicken

Good suggestion!

A very long time ago, I started Copaxone and had a LOT of trouble with pain, burning, bruising, etc. and a VERY smary lady told me to get a tube of Arnica Gel, make sure it's the gel and NOT the ointment, put it in the freezer and use it on shot sites. It made it a lot easier to do the shots daily and kept me going on them until Tysabri was returned.

I keep it around now for everything! It's still kept in the freezer too!

Now who was that smart lady???...:Scratch-Head::Ponder:...

OH YEAH!! It was FLY GIRL!!:p

Hope the tube is in use over at your house there FG!!:hug:

[Taffy]

Thanks Anne! I need some free hugs...shoot I take some hugs and pay for them! LOL! ;) Don't tell Taffy, she'll be begging for Chocolate! :p

Thanks Wiz and Kim! I didn't break anything and I am GLAD I don't have to have surgery either! Keep your fingers crossed that the infection doesn't come back. 2 days off antibiotics and so far so good....

:mfr_wha:

Where? Where is the chocolate? (looking around) You have chocolate FG?

[Av8rgirl]

:mfr_wha:

Where? Where is the chocolate? (looking around) You have chocolate FG?

I ALWAYS have chocolate Taffy. But since I am in Jacksonville, FL right now, you're going to have to come a loooong way to get it!!!

As for the rose colored bruise - yep that about covers it right now. It's pretty shades of reds with a little yellows thrown in there. Arnica gel works pretty good but this one is pretty deep so it's just gonna hafta work its way out.

Feeling better, Jappy...thanks!

Weather is pretty crappy here in Jacksonvile...yuck...rain rain rain! And muggy! Yuck!

:(

[Koala77]

....... But since I am in Jacksonville, FL right now, you're going to have to come a loooong way to get it!!!.....:(


Is this work FG ........ as in flying peoples or cargo? Or are you just lolling around so we all feel just that wee tad jealous??? :rolleyes: . . :D

[Av8rgirl]

Is this work FG ........ as in flying peoples or cargo? Or are you just lolling around so we all feel just that wee tad jealous??? :rolleyes: . . :D

I am here for a class to learn how to use some software I bought for my landscape design business. I hope to be able to design using this software to my clients can actually see what their yards will look with the plants and hardscape rather than just my pen and pencil drawings!

Lolling around? Ha...never! :D

[DM]

:hug:HOLY MOLY FG!!! I am sooo sorry I did not see that you fell. I think you are my long lost sister!! Glad to hear the bruise is healing, but if you wanted to see such bright pretty colors, why didn't you buy a kaleidescope????

Sorry Cheryl.... couldn't resist that one. Feel better, my friend and bring us back some warm weather.

:hug:

[Av8rgirl]

It's raining and miserable here. I think I am glad I am in class ....

:p

[AfterMyNap]

Get back to work!:mad:

[yeahbut]

Cheryl sorry to hear you fell! Hope you are doing better and can enjoy the Florida Sunshine when it comes out! :cool:

[Taffy]

Kool! FG will be paper trained or puter trained or.... well...it just sounds like a neat thing!

[DM]

*checking FG's sleeves and hands for cheat sheet*

No dating the teachers trying to get an A either. :winky:

*handing Cheryl a wormy apple* :D

.

[Gazelle]

Class? That sounds good. You gotta get some edumucation. I heard that program's pretty tricky.

Maybe you'll get to go out on the town and do something fun. That'd take away the muggy, icky weather-related blues. ;)

Oh, and remember you're in a different state. It might be a good place to start carrying out the "distribute the body parts" plan. :D I hear that there are lovely dinosaur type creatures down there with loads of teeth that really enjoy eating meat. :eek:

[Riverwild]

peering out the window at the latest snow and hoping that you have nice WARM weather down there! :)



Can you send UP some heat???:D

[AfterMyNap]

*peering out the window... grinning*

[SallyC]

*peering out the window... grinning*

Waving Hello to Nappy...http://home.earthlink.net/~sal.pal/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/fing17.gif

[Riverwild]

*wonders wth that image is over there reflected inna snow*


whispers fearfully in a protective sort of way....YETI!!!:eek:

:ROTFLMAO::ROTFLMAO::ROTFLMAO::ROTFLMAO::ROTFLMAO: :ROTFLMAO::ROTFLMAO:

[AfterMyNap]

Waving Hello to Nappy...http://home.earthlink.net/~sal.pal/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/fing17.gif

Hiya, Sal! :Wave-Hello:

How goes it, ole friend?

[DM]

How ya doin today Cheryl? Are you bruises still purty??

*waving at AMN, now... hmmmm how many fingers am I holding up*:D:D:D:D

[Taffy]

How ya doin today Cheryl? Are you bruises still purty??

*waving at AMN, now... hmmmm how many fingers am I holding up*:D:D:D:D

FG is wearing clothes to match her bruises.

DM put that finger down!:eek:

[Abasaki]

DM.... how many times we hafta tell ya... :rolleyes:

Wave with ALL your fingers!?!?!?!? :eek:

[Gazelle]

Naptime, naptime
It's ok!
Save your strength
for another day!

YaaaaAAAAY NAPTIME!!

[DM]

Will this do????

*dabbing foreHAID*

[AfterMyNap]

Will this do????

*dabbing foreHAID*

I wanna help!

*dabbing dm's forehead with a hot waffle iron*

[Av8rgirl]

here's one that will leave mickey mouse imprint on her forehead.

[Av8rgirl]

http://sl.glitter-graphics.net/pub/997/997689nclmyg7njr.gif

look who I found flying around on page three! now that's just not right...

[SallyC]

http://sl.glitter-graphics.net/pub/997/997689nclmyg7njr.gif

look who I found flying around on page three! now that's just not right...

Looks like Snoopy to me...:D

Hi Ya FG, How's it hangin....no, wait, thats not right.:eek:

How Ya Be, FG? Oh that was better and it rymned..:)

:hug:

[DM]

Looks like Snoopy to me...:D

Hi Ya FG, How's it hangin....no, wait, thats not right.:eek:

How Ya Be, FG? Oh that was better and it rymned..:)

:hug:


Sal's been peeking!!!! :eek:

[Av8rgirl]

Doing ok...head is a bit stuffy, but I am doing ok. I've got a couple of small landscape jobs lined up for tomorrow.

I get to design a basketball court! Woohoo! And then I get to get all ther permits for the guys to build it.

I really think they asked me to design it cuz they wanted ME to do the paperwork for the permits! The permits part is the hard part, not the designing. I figured that one out!

;)

[DM]

Nah... the guys probably want you for their "Diet Coke" gal.

Remember that Diet Coke hunk???? :winky:

[Av8rgirl]

Nah... the guys probably want you for their "Diet Coke" gal.

Remember that Diet Coke hunk???? :winky:

I do remember that!

Hmm...I like working with these guys. They are all waaay younger than me and they could be the Diet Coke hunks!

:D

[Taffy]

I do remember that!

Hmm...I like working with these guys. They are all waaay younger than me and they could be the Diet Coke hunks!

:D

Oh, la-la!!!!!!

[DM]

Your'e so dang cute, you'll have em all drooling, FG!!!!







hussy:D

[Av8rgirl]

Your'e so dang cute, you'll have em all drooling, FG!!!!







hussy:D

You betcha! And I enjoy every minute of it! ;)

[DM]

You betcha! And I enjoy every minute of it! ;)


You'd have to be fightin 'em all off w/a stick~ NAh~ your'e right, you WOULD enjoy every minute of it!!!!.:wink:






easy broad

[Taffy]

How many are there? Did ya say?

(sharing?)

[Av8rgirl]

Plenty to go around.

Yep, I share! ;)

[DM]

How many are there? Did ya say?

(sharing?)


Let's see ??? hmmmm. One for you, One for me and 2 for Cheryl. I'd like to see what she's made of!!! :D:D


my bad!

[Av8rgirl]

You'd really like to "see?"

[DM]

Ask a silly question...............;):wink::p

[Av8rgirl]

Would we expect anything less of you! LOL!

:hug:





I wouldn't show you anyway! :p

[Taffy]

Anyhoo....nice to hear that FG is a great friend!

(shaking head at DM!)

[Av8rgirl]

Anyhoo....nice to hear that FG is a great friend!

(shaking head at DM!)

I do my best...

chocolates anyone?


http://sl.glitter-graphics.net/pub/47/47136pxremwv68s.gif

[Taffy]

Hauling you back to page 1!:D

http://dl10.glitter-graphics.net/pub/544/544760ecsrphkqea.jpg (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[DM]

I think Taff is hanging out at the Truck Stops again! :D

[Shelley]

I think Taff is hanging out at the Truck Stops again! :D

Yep looking for some more Diet Coke guys. :p

[Taffy]

Is there a problem with that?

[Av8rgirl]

Is there a problem with that?

Thanks for bringing me back Tippy!! You're a good Dally Pal!!!

Not one!

thought you only drank Diet Pepsi! LOL!

[Taffy]

Thanks for bringing me back Tippy!! You're a good Dally Pal!!!

Not one!

thought you only drank Diet Pepsi! LOL!

Oh spew! Alright already, enough of Diet Coke or Diet Pepsi.

Spew, spew, spew.....http://planetsmilies.net/vomit-smiley-31.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)


If I drink any of it, it has to be just Pepsi!

http://dl.glitter-graphics.net/pub/969/969621kbg50vwdbk.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[Av8rgirl]

Well....EXCUUUUUUUUUSE ME :p...............

[Taffy]

Well....EXCUUUUUUUUUSE ME :p...............

Just straighten the record!:D LMOA!

[Av8rgirl]

Thanks for bringing me back Tippy!! You're a good Dally Pal!!!

Not one!

thought you only drank Pepsi! LOL!

Are you happy now!!! FIFY!!!


:p:p:p

[Taffy]

I will think on it....perhaps...ok...

Fine!:D

[Av8rgirl]

I will think on it....perhaps...ok...

Fine!:D

Thank you your Taffiness!

[Taffy]

Anytime! (waving....) Anytime!
(the things we do to keep you on the top of the page....geez)

[Av8rgirl]

http://sl.glitter-graphics.net/pub/941/941851c851aq8ynb.gif

[Taffy]

http://dl9.glitter-graphics.net/pub/941/941859zhi49kgkee.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[MSacorn]

Oh no Cheryl, not you too. Up you go.

:hug:

[Av8rgirl]

Hi there everyone...did anyone miss me? That's what I thought...:(

[AfterMyNap]

Pah-leeeeze. I'm down near page 85 by now!:eek:

[greta]

Hi there everyone...did anyone miss me? That's what I thought...:(

Well no, but I kinda missed Holly (the dog, not the neurotalk member ;) ). She's a real cutie. Thanks for bumping up your avatar!

[Av8rgirl]

Well no, but I kinda missed Holly (the dog, not the neurotalk member ;) ). She's a real cutie. Thanks for bumping up your avatar!

And I love you too. Gretata! :p

[DM]

Good to see you FG!! *and your little dog too*

*always wanted to say that*

Holly is just too cute!!:hug:

[Av8rgirl]

Good to see you FG!! *and your little dog too*

*always wanted to say that*

Holly is just too cute!!:hug:

Thank you DM. she seems to be getting more attention than me..maybe we should start a thread about Holly the dog as opposed to HollyM. Afterall, there already is a thread about Hollym and her new haircut..with no pictures BTW...HOLLYM...

[Riverwild]

Nice job editing Holly's pic for the av! Did AMN do the cutting?? :eek:

Stay away from my hair! :p

How are you?? :)

[Av8rgirl]

Nice job editing Holly's pic for the av! Did AMN do the cutting?? :eek:

Stay away from my hair! :p

How are you?? :)

I did...shaddup....:p

[Taffy]

I looked and looked and looked...

Found her!

http://dl6.glitter-graphics.net/pub/120/120476c99j62njnw.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[Riverwild]

OMG!!:eek::eek::eek:

She was on page TWENTY???

( what do you suppose she was doing there all by herself???:eek::eek::D)

[Koala77]

OMG!!:eek::eek::eek:
She was on page TWENTY???

( what do you suppose she was doing there all by herself???:eek::eek::D)

Can I guess?? .......... http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/russnanne/Smilies/Knitting.gif..................... http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/russnanne/Smilies/whistle.gif

[Av8rgirl]

Thanks Twappy...all the way to page twenty, huh...:eek: Glad you found me...I've been a little lost lately.

To answer your question Sappy....I think that answer is yes. :mad:

[AfterMyNap]

OMG!!:eek::eek::eek:

She was on page TWENTY???

( what do you suppose she was doing there all by herself???:eek::eek::D)

Do we even have a page 20?? Wow.

[DM]

*running to check*


AYUP! There's a pg 20!~

Where ya been FG? Are ya still poopy feeling? :hug::hug::hug::hug:

[Taffy]

River? She wasn't on page 20! She was on page ...............:eek:

Well, that doesn't matter does it! She is here now!:D

[SallyC]

To answer your question Sappy....I think that answer is yes. :mad:

Well, Poopy, I say..:mad: :hug:

[Av8rgirl]

Still feeling a little under the weather. :(

Thanks for dragging me out into the sunshine again ..... you guys are all right!

[Av8rgirl]

I just got a call from Shelley...we had a nice chat. She put a smile on my face today! :D

[Taffy]

I just got a call from Shelley...we had a nice chat. She put a smile on my face today! :D


Brat!!!!!!:mad:

[Av8rgirl]

Brat!!!!!!:mad:

I am so drugged up right now, nothing can hurt me! :p

[DM]

Awwww Shucks FG! What's going on witchu lately? I'm sending hugs and feel better prayers your way. DH is at the Dr right now, with what I"m fairly sure is bronchitis. I'm crossing fingers his cooties don't jump on me! :eek: He must feel really carpy, cuz he NEVER EVER takes a day off work.

Take care my lil winged friend.


http://dl7.glitter-graphics.net/pub/1183/1183477smap0krjwq.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[SallyC]

Sending Mean Zaps to your exacerbation and good exacerbation free, full of love thoughts to you, Cheryl. :hug:

Oh No DM, so sorry about Hubby..:( Be sure he turns his head and coughs..OK..:p

[Av8rgirl]

I've got a call into my local neuro and of course, she's not in the office. So I have to wait another day.

Thanks everyone.

Sorry to that Denny is not feeling well, DM...hope he gets better soon! :hug:

[Shelley]

Brat!!!!!!:mad:

Brat back at ya..... Hehehehehe

Time to hula

[Av8rgirl]

Brat back at ya..... Hehehehehe

Time to hula


:stirthepot: Have a hula good time!!! :sunchair:

[Curious]

Brat back at ya..... Hehehehehe

Time to hula

we want pictures. :p

[Taffy]

Blowing raspberries at everyone....I got a call from Hawaii! I got a call!





(it wasn't from Shelley....does that count?...:yahoo: Where the rules?)

[Av8rgirl]

I call is a call is a call...no wait! That's not true.

Ah but it's Twiffy...we have to give her a break. It's her son. :p

[DM]

I call is a call is a call...no wait! That's not true.

Ah but it's Twiffy...we have to give her a break. It's her son. :p

What kinda "break" should I give Twiffy???

http://dl8.glitter-graphics.net/pub/164/164038buagwomloc.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)


I'm sorry Tarpy! I don't know what comes over me sometimes.
http://dl.glitter-graphics.net/pub/1170/1170831eo9o7fmgh4.jpg (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[Taffy]

It's ok DM...blame it on the drugs...or lack of..

http://dl4.glitter-graphics.net/pub/755/755584zuxpfs9uzu.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[Av8rgirl]

You are asking the wrong person DM...or maybe not!

Let me think about this one...that would be a bad idea right now...my brain is not functioning very well! How about a cheesecake break!

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:kMZaw0nRxblHbM:http://www.ilovefundraising.com/catalog/images/classic-cheesecakes-lg.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ilovefundraising.com/catalog/images/classic-cheesecakes-lg.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ilovefundraising.com/catalog/classic-cheesecakes-brochures-p-77.html&h=320&w=368&sz=21&hl=en&start=7&um=1&tbnid=kMZaw0nRxblHbM:&tbnh=106&tbnw=122&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcheesecake%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3 DGGLG,GGLG:2005-48,GGLG:en%26sa%3DN)

[Av8rgirl]

I am starting 3 days of IVSM today...just thought I would let you all know so you won't wonder where I am for the next few days! :p

[Victor H]

I sure hope that it goes well, Cheryl.

Sounds like one of those treatments wherein you just have to grin and bear it, and I bet that you wil do fine.

To ease the process, just watch you Redsox crush my Halos again.;)

-Vic

[Av8rgirl]

I sure hope that it goes well, Cheryl.

Sounds like one of those treatments wherein you just have to grin and bear it, and I bet that you wil do fine.

To ease the process, just watch you Redsox crush my Halos again.;)

-Vic

Good idea Vic!

It's usually just nap time for me. I have tried taking something to read, or even my laptop to try to get some work done, but I always end up just sleeping. :Yawn::Zzzz:

[Riverwild]

I'll be in the chair tomorrow too! I go for lucky # 13 tomorrow!:D

I get to go alone tomorrow and drive myself because the youngster will not sit through the three hour appt.:rolleyes:

Too bad we can't do it in the same place. I'm good for ten minutes of conversation before I fall asleep!:p

Good luck with yours!:hug:

[SallyC]

How are you feeling tonight, Cheryl? Climbing the walls yet?

Ya know, My old retired, Neuro, always gave me potassium and Valium with IVSM....along with lots of water. It helped a lot.:)

[Av8rgirl]

I don't get hyper with the roid's at all. In fact, they monitor me pretty close b/c my BP is so low. I slept most of the day. Headache now and upset stomach, and my legs still hurt pretty bad.

I got my new laptop today and I am too tired to even play with it. Yep...Nappy convinced me to make the switch from a PC to a MAC...I am now the proud owner of a MacBook!

I have figured out how to turn it on, download MSN Messenger for Mac, and find this site...doing pretty good for a PC user!!

Oops, former PC user! *smack* that was from AMN, cuz I know she will smack me!

Off to bed before I hurt myself. Chat with you all later.

[Victor H]

I don't get hyper with the roid's at all. In fact, they monitor me pretty close b/c my BP is so low. I slept most of the day. Headache now and upset stomach, and my legs still hurt pretty bad.

I got my new laptop today and I am too tired to even play with it. Yep...Nappy convinced me to make the switch from a PC to a MAC:eek::eek::eek:...I am now the proud owner of a MacBook!

I have figured out how to turn it on, download MSN Messenger for Mac, and find this site...doing pretty good for a PC user!!

Oops, former PC user! *smack* that was from AMN, cuz I know she will smack me!

Off to bed before I hurt myself. Chat with you all later.

THAT is a surefire way to induce an exacerbation !!!!!

Noooooooooooo........

On a serious note, I hope that you do well with the IVSM and yes, I hope that your Redsox do well against my Halos this afternoon....as you deserve a break.

-Vic

[Av8rgirl]

I think you are wrong Victor...I am a Retro Mac User...I own an original 1984 Mac and I still use it! It's slower than molasses in winter, but it works. ;)

When the PC community came out with "windows" we just laughed! But when we moved to the west coast, the Apple just wasn't supported so I had to bite the bullet and go the PC route.

Now I am back to Apple. This MacBook is easy...I just have to move my software to it and get it up and running! But not right now..it's going to take a few days.

Right now I feel like I've been run over by a truck, but that's normal for me after one day of IVSM...

Yeah, maybe the RED SOX will do well today! :D

[AfterMyNap]

THAT is a surefire way to induce an exacerbation !!!!!

Noooooooooooo........

On a serious note, I hope that you do well with the IVSM and yes, I hope that your Redsox do well against my Halos this afternoon....as you deserve a break.

-Vic

*smack*

Don't flaunt your ignorance.

[SallyC]

*smack*

Don't flaunt your ignorance.

'm a little sick of the two MSes taking over my life. Maybe my next puter will be a Mac too..:eek:..sorry Vic.:p

[Victor H]

Now I feel like Applescauce.;)

-Vic

[Av8rgirl]

This is how your learn, Vic! Some of us are just a little slower than others!!! :rolleyes:

[Victor H]

Now I really feel like the PC guy in the MAC commercial.:o

~LOL~:)

[Av8rgirl]

Now I really feel like the PC guy in the MAC commercial.:o

~LOL~:)

Hey AMN...we got him! :p

Yer OK Vic!!!

Just gotta get you up here for a plane ride!!! :D

[Av8rgirl]

Two days down on the IVSM...day three today. I can feel my left arm today...;)

[SallyC]

Two days down on the IVSM...day three today. I can feel my left arm today...;)

WoooooooHoooooooo..:yahoo::Excited::Head-Spin::Dancing-Chilli:

[ewizabeth]

Dang it Cheryl! It isn't fair that you need IVSM again. :mad: When do you get to go on the real Tovaxin?

Anyway, I hope the steroids work and you'll feel better soon. :hug:

[DM]

Now I feel like Applescauce.;)

-Vic


Now, that's funny!!!! Run Vic~ RUN!http://dl4.glitter-graphics.net/pub/1191/1191444fno2mc88u9.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)



This is how your learn, Vic! Some of us are just a little slower than others!!! :rolleyes:


NO COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!


Feel better Cheryl! Kick that exacerbation to the curb! :hug:

[Av8rgirl]

Now, that's funny!!!! Run Vic~ RUN!http://dl4.glitter-graphics.net/pub/1191/1191444fno2mc88u9.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)






NO COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!


Feel better Cheryl! Kick that exacerbation to the curb! :hug:

I am working on it, DM....with a little help from my friends (and those nurses at the hospital!) they are taking very good care of me!!! ;)

[Av8rgirl]

Dang it Cheryl! It isn't fair that you need IVSM again. :mad: When do you get to go on the real Tovaxin?

Anyway, I hope the steroids work and you'll feel better soon. :hug:

Not sure Wiz. My first blood draw for the extension study, I didn't produce MRTCs....so now I have to wait 90 days for re-draw. Not making MRTCs is a good thing! That means that I converted...;)

But that also means that I will have to wait 90 days for re-draw and if I don't make MRTCs next time, I wait another 90 days. And will get a re-draw every 90 days until I convert back. Then they will draw the procurement blood and make the vaccine.

[Av8rgirl]

All done with my IVSM...now it's time to just take it easy for the rest of the weekend! Who parked the truck on my chest????

[Victor H]

All done with my IVSM...now it's time to just take it easy for the rest of the weekend! Who parked the truck on my chest????

I will call AAA and they will bring in their towtruck to get that truck off of your chest.:)

Hang in there, Cheryl.

-Vic

[Av8rgirl]

I wore my Red Sox socks today...the guys in the infusion room were giving me a bad time about them! Didn't help with this chest pressure, but I stuck up for my RED SOX...

Home now and am going to spend the better part of the weekend in bed...getting to know my new Macbook laptop!

[Koala77]

All done with my IVSM...now it's time to just take it easy for the rest of the weekend! Who parked the truck on my chest????


So pleased it's all done. Vic will get that trucked towed, and hopefully you'll be feeling better real soon. :hug:

[Av8rgirl]

So pleased it's all done. Vic will get that trucked towed, and hopefully you'll be feeling better real soon. :hug:

I hope someone does...it's squeezing me too hard right now. I don't like it!!

[Koala77]

I hope someone does...it's squeezing me too hard right now. I don't like it!!


http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/russnanne/characters/image0011.jpg Helloooooo VIC!






Have you phoned that truck yet?

FG needs a tow right now!

[Av8rgirl]

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/russnanne/characters/image0011.jpg Helloooooo VIC!






Have you phoned that truck yet?

FG needs a tow right now!

Thanks Koala...I took a pain pill and am laying down on the couch...it's going to take a couple of days for the meds to kick in...one thing I've noticed is that these relapses are less frequent but seem to be more intense. I guess I can handle that...fewer drugs to deal with is better. :rolleyes: