Nerve damage in the most unlikely of places, help!

[acer123]

Literally one year ago, I happened to be partaking in penis exercises, where you try to stretch and squeeze the penis to try and make it bigger. I figured what the hay and give it a try. Unfortunately I think I pulled too hard or held to tightly on my glans.

Well my glans went numb! In a week, the numbness was gone, but I've had reduced sensitivity. I must say the sensitivity has gotten better over this past year, but still not where it's supposed to be.

I realize I can feel touch on my glans, but I cannot feel temperature (only a little bit of heat, but no cold) or much pain on it. So it goes to show some small fibers must have been damaged. Thinly myelinated and unmyelinated fibers.

Will these ever heal?? I don't believe I tore my nerve, I think that would have hurt! I probably stretched and/or compressed it too hard. Will this finally heal? Has anyone had this happen? What's the last word on nerve damage if it wasn't torn/cut? I mean its been a year now, and I admit it has felt better, and I've felt tiny tingles directly in that area in the past month.

But I think I need some hope or something, this is taking absolutely forever, for such a tiny trauma, that induced no pain, but just numbness at the time. I really pray and hope everything returns to normal. :(

[Silverlady]

I think you should see your doctor immediately.

Billye

[nide44]

Neurontin (& Lyrica I think-possibly other PN meds) has a s/e of desensitization
and lack of penile response, as well as sx of ED.
I'd talk to a doc who was experienced in the sx of Gabapentin (neurontin)
regarding this issue.
It doesn't get better, if you continue to take the med.

[acer123]

I think you should see your doctor immediately.

Billye
Have already, long time ago. It is peripheral neuropathy lol, it's injury related.

Neurontin (& Lyrica I think-possibly other PN meds) has a s/e of desensitization
and lack of penile response, as well as sx of ED.
I'd talk to a doc who was experienced in the sx of Gabapentin (neurontin)
regarding this issue.
It doesn't get better, if you continue to take the med.
I don't use any of these drugs, I don't have pain.




But aside from that what about the nerves, do they heal after a year??

[dmplaura]

Neurontin (& Lyrica I think-possibly other PN meds) has a s/e of desensitization
and lack of penile response, as well as sx of ED.
I'd talk to a doc who was experienced in the sx of Gabapentin (neurontin)
regarding this issue.
It doesn't get better, if you continue to take the med.

This would explain my lack of fun in those regions. Appreciate the input.

[acer123]

Doesn't anyone have knowledge on healing of injured nerves, whether through compression or stretch?? I realize my case is unique but still, I'd imagine people on this site to have some kind of experience with injury related neuropathy.

I've read sites on it, but I'm looking for people who've had injured nerves, and how they healed etc.

[Curious]

try doing a search on the fourm. there are many posts.

here is a link to the sticky on how pn does improve. you may notice most use supplements like b12 to heal the nerves.

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread43699.html

[MelodyL]

Let's see if I understand this.

You have peripheral neuropathy in your penis??

Or you had peripheral neuropathy somewhere else nd because you tried to stretch your penis, you believe you have injured it? Is this the case?

Have you seen your urologist?

And the most important question.

And please forgive me for being DIRECT here, but we are talking penises.

Can you get an erection, and can you ejaculate?

Thanks much.

Melody

[acer123]

try doing a search on the fourm. there are many posts.

here is a link to the sticky on how pn does improve. you may notice most use supplements like b12 to heal the nerves.


K thanks.

Let's see if I understand this.

You have peripheral neuropathy in your penis??

Or you had peripheral neuropathy somewhere else nd because you tried to stretch your penis, you believe you have injured it? Is this the case?

Have you seen your urologist?

And the most important question.

And please forgive me for being DIRECT here, but we are talking penises.

Can you get an erection, and can you ejaculate?

Thanks much.

Melody

Peripheral neuropathy is any kind of malfunction of the nervous system. Whether that be from a disease, drugs, or injury, etc.

Yes I can get an erection yes I can ejaculate.

It's just the sensory nerves not the ones that control erection and etc, motor I suppose, not those.

It's only in my glans. It came from basically being too brutal with it, by stretching it.

I've been to a urologist and he said it should heal. There's not much help out there from doctor's on nerves. That's why I'm seeking experience of those who've had stretch/compression nerve type injury.

[diagnonsense]

I don't have man parts so I can't identify.
However, I agree that you should see a Dr. (one that deals specifically in nerve damage)
Even though you feel that they don't do much with nerve damage, and they don't.
Injury related ones probably have a much better chance of being repaired. You know the cause of damage.

[acer123]

I don't have man parts so I can't identify.
However, I agree that you should see a Dr. (one that deals specifically in nerve damage)
Even though you feel that they don't do much with nerve damage, and they don't.
Injury related ones probably have a much better chance of being repaired. You know the cause of damage.

Yeah I have actually seen a GP, urologist and a neurologist.

GP didn't have much info, but said it should heal. Urologist didn't have much info either but said it probably will heal. And the neurologist check out my reflexes and all that to see if I had any other existing nerve problems, and I had none. He said it should heal, but not if I continue to do what I was doing. Not sure if he meant if I were to do it again it would be permanent, or that it will return to normal if I stop it forever. He wasn't much help either really.

So all I can rely on now are people like me who have had an injury related neuropathy and combine our research on healing.

[shiney sue]

I've never seen this problem,on NeuroTalk ,dosen't mean there are others
who have been afraid to ask..You have been to correct Drs. why not give it
time and stop being so rough with your body part..First I am in my 60's
and do not think streching will change the way you are ,which I'm sure is fine,
if you where not loaded up on meds by Drs they must feel it will get better Well did you say how long this has been
going on the numbess has been affecting you,if you did sorry I didn't catch it. This post may bring out others who have gone through this,or you may have to check the stickies. Hugs to all Sue the b12 meth has helped some
it's worth a try.

[MelodyL]

Well, what you can do to start helping yourself is to take Methyl B-12 every day. That helped my neuropathy in a BIG way.

It's only a start, but hey, every little bit helps. Methyl B-12 helps to heal nerves. Google it and you'll get all the information.

I take 5000 sublingually every single morning (on an empty stomach).

Take care and best of luck.

melody

[acer123]

Yeah bringing it up online isn't a big deal, in person was rough. But after that talking about anything is a cinch.

It's honestly not numb any more, atleast not that like rubber glove feeling of numbness, just reduced sensitivity. However I can't really fully feel heat and cold. So I'm thinking the larger myelinated nerves in the penis healed, cuz I can feel touch. But the smaller ones involved with pain and temperature still need some time, I hope.

I jsut don't want it to be permanent. But yeah no doctor's offered drugs, probably cuz most drugs are for pain, and this isn't a painful event, but a painless event.

I realize my situation is unique, and not many people have had it happen, but there are internet cases out there I know for a fact. However I'm just looking for a meet at the middle of just people who have had injury neuropathy and how long it took to heal if at all, and what happened. Similar stretch/compression injury similar to this, but in another area of the body.

The loss of sensitivity has been going on for a year, but subtley getting better. The numbness was gone in a year. If it was still numb today, lord knows what I'd do.


Edit: K thanks I'll try methyl b-12, I have heard of it.

[Shelley]

While not in the same region I did hear that nerve crush injuries can take upwards of two years to heal. I have a nerve crush injury in my shoulder and its about two years now that I feel closer to normal.

Hang in there :hug:

[acer123]

While not in the same region I did hear that nerve crush injuries can take upwards of two years to heal. I have a nerve crush injury in my shoulder and its about two years now that I feel closer to normal.

Hang in there :hug:

Nice, well I'll take 2 years over never, any time. Quite the practice of patience isn't it? Ugh.

What happened to you for the nerve to crush?


Oh and in my previous post I meant the numbness was gone in a week not a year. But the reduced sensitivity has been going on for a year, while slowly getting better. It's just crazy how long this takes to heal! (if at all :( )

But I'll try to stay optimistic...

[nide44]

Yeah I have actually seen ..........And the neurologist check out my reflexes and all that to see if I had any other existing nerve problems, and I had none. He said it should heal, but not if I continue to do what I was doing. Not sure if he meant if I were to do it again it would be permanent, or that it will return to normal if I stop it forever. He wasn't much help either really.
Why didn't you call him back and ask him to be more specific?

Your case, if it is really a case of PN, is probably the most unique, to date.
on this forum. :eek:
You've had some answers, but I doubt if anyone else has had the same experience.:cool:

BTW - Gabapentin/Neurontin/Lyrica is not a pain med. It decreases symptoms of PN and is moreover an anti-spasm (originally developed for epilepsy) medication to assist in subduing the mis-firing of nerves that send wrong signals to the brain.:confused:

Remember what yer mom said ...
"keep playin' with that thing & it'll fall off...":wink::D:winky:

[acer123]

Why didn't you call him back and ask him to be more specific?

Your case, if it is really a case of PN, is probably the most unique, to date.
on this forum. :eek:
You've had some answers, but I doubt if anyone else has had the same experience.:cool:

BTW - Gabapentin/Neurontin/Lyrica is not a pain med. It decreases symptoms of PN and is moreover an anti-spasm (originally developed for epilepsy) medication to assist in subduing the mis-firing of nerves that send wrong signals to the brain.:confused:

Remember what yer mom said ...
"keep playin' with that thing & it'll fall off...":wink::D:winky:

Yeah I know its unique, but check out any kind of 'penis exercises' on websites such as XXXXXXXXXX

And nope he couldn't be more specific, he was worthless.

But it is PN, that is no question, I damaged the nerves locally on my penis, that is one form of PN.

[acer123]

So these nerves will heal? I'm just scared its permanent. That's why I came here, for knowledge and hope. I can't believe these things take so long to heal, practically permanent with how long they take.

[Shelley]

Nice, well I'll take 2 years over never, any time. Quite the practice of patience isn't it? Ugh.

What happened to you for the nerve to crush?


Oh and in my previous post I meant the numbness was gone in a week not a year. But the reduced sensitivity has been going on for a year, while slowly getting better. It's just crazy how long this takes to heal! (if at all :( )

But I'll try to stay optimistic...

Mine was a nreve crushinjury to the brachial plexus area in the shoulder. I tried the neurontin and the lyrica and they helped minimally. PT helped themost and I did have surgery to remove the crush since mine was caused structurally. BUt I would think the crush part for you is over and now the healing.

But yeah it has taken around 2 years and the other thing I did was (after reading all of mrsd's vitamin posts) make sure my body was getting enough b vitamins to help the nerves heal. But nerve tissue takes time to heal so patience is a virtue in this case isn't it?

[acer123]

Yep, quite the virtue. I just hope the virtue pays off and it actually heals though, lol.

Staying optimistic/positive, is a task in itself as well.

[acer123]

So I'm really not looking at permanent damage here am I? Everyone would agree it should heal?

[Jo*mar]

I just don't think any of us can say either way, time will tell.
If it is a stretch or crush injury it could take a year or 2.

[cyclelops]

I degloved a finger above the distal joint. It was severed thru everything but the bone and the tendon, three quarters around the finger. I didn't think it would come back, but it did, it feels completely normal, however, it took a few years for it to feel normal.....then I found out I had bodywide PN, LOL....the PN has nothing to do with the injury and feels different than the injury did. Since it is healing, has been healing and getting better, I would be optimistic.

[acer123]

I degloved a finger above the distal joint. It was severed thru everything but the bone and the tendon, three quarters around the finger. I didn't think it would come back, but it did, it feels completely normal, however, it took a few years for it to feel normal.....then I found out I had bodywide PN, LOL....the PN has nothing to do with the injury and feels different than the injury did. Since it is healing, has been healing and getting better, I would be optimistic.

Damn bro whats that mean degloved? It was ripped offf??

But true that does cast some hope into my issue, since that seems a lot more extreme than my case. Thank you for sharing.

[Junie]

I have a similar problem and I am not sure if it is caused by injury or condition, and I am female so to cut it short I have arachnoiditsis which could be the cause or it could be the result of the 7 falls I had within the month following my spinal fusion in 06-08 and to date I have NO feeling from thighs to waist and am prone to sores or injury in those areas since I have no sensation there at all! All of the falls were reported to my NS and pain Dr's the day of the Hard falls and not even an Xray was ordered! I doubt mine will ever get better as it only gets worse for me and no feeling has returned! I advise you to check area freq. since I ended up with a 2 in by 2 in deep bedsore looking area on my lower belly I was able to cure on my own with wet to dry dressings for 2 weeks! I used to be a nurse so I knew what to do but be careful, it is easy to obtain a injury when there is a lack of feeling involved and the areas I am unable to see I have to get a trusted family member to look for me! That is why diabetics are preached to about wearing shoes at all times since the numbness of PN is so unfeeling!
I wish you well and feel grateful you have signs of healing because some of us never will!

[cyclelops]

Damn bro whats that mean degloved? It was ripped offf??

But true that does cast some hope into my issue, since that seems a lot more extreme than my case. Thank you for sharing.

Degloved is when you cut something off, almost, and it slips up on the bone a bit....it actually sounds a lot more gruesome than it is....i was kiteskiing and got my finger caught in the strings....long stupid story, but the kitestring 150 pound test line, cut thru the finger like butter....luckily i was able to let go, and it severed about three quarters of a circle around the top of the finger....it was a real clean cut, so they, just pulled it back down a little and put in a few stitches and voila, you can not even tell! BTW, I am a female, and I was 50 when I did this, some folks have heard this story, so I wont bore them....

Later I was diagnosed with PN, which I have lately learned is autoimmune, for sure....no de-diagnosing it now.

The injured finger goes numb and comes back the same way the uninjured fingers do...one would never know it was injured pretty badly, you can't see a thing. My finger with oncholysis looks a lot worse...that is due to disease (not PN) don't worry.

I am sure the family jewel kit will be fine, I can understand your concern tho. Self improvement is highly overrated.

[acer123]

Thanks. I'll just keep praying it fully recovers, other than ubiquinol, alcar, and methyl b12, thats all there's left to do. *sigh*

But I'll try my best to stay positive.

It will heal, it will heal, it will heal...

[Shelley]

Make sure not just B12 but all the B's are important for nerve healing.

[DanP]

Be careful of B-6 because too much of it can actually cause PN! I think the recommended max of B-6 is 50mg - check that out to be sure.

[acer123]

Yeah I'm taking a daily multivitamin so its all good. I haven't noticed any neuropathy anywhere else.

[acer123]

Can't remmeber if I mentioned, but sometimes, rarely though, I feel pings/tingles going on in the injury area. Is that a sign of healing? Sometimes its intense and makes me go "geeeee", weird feeling. Goes away in like 5 to 10 seconds.

[dahlek]

And those pings and tingles could get pretty awful as the new nerves try and figure out what to do.... My experience has been that when they 'come alive' again? Strange feelings mite last for 30 seconds to 10 minutes, not the constant neuropathy thrum many of us have. I welcome every new twinge as a sign of hope. Whether it is or not.
Nerves die very fast from trauma [which is what it sounds like] but take years and years to regrow! Both the large fiber and small ones as well.
All I gotta say, is....what ever you did? Don't do it again!
Good luck - j

[acer123]

True, thanks for the support.

All I have left is hope, amazing neurology hasn't found a solid remedy to speed the healing process.

Really does get daunting afterawhile and waiting and waiting, I honestly don't think anything else can help you attain patience than nerve damage. It's been quite the setback, but takes great mental strength to hold on and still have faith it will without any true indicators of progress.

[unnerved]

So these nerves will heal? I'm just scared its permanent. That's why I came here, for knowledge and hope. I can't believe these things take so long to heal, practically permanent with how long they take.

hey acer, i've been batteling real bad loss of penis sensation for a long time now. over 2 years. not sure exactly how if started.(too tight a cockring for to long? street drugs? neuropathy? too many caverject injections?) sensation seems to improve sometimes, but then my sexual proclivities (cock rings and street drugs, and caverject)seem to bring it back. i'm totally impotenet with out viagra and sometimes that doesnt even work. i've resorted to caverject(u actually inject it in to ur penis, but since loss of sensation i hardly feel it)...anyway, been taking alpha lipoic acid and b-12 (1000 1x day. think i'll got to 5000 as stated above) but its still pretty bad....if anyone has any suggestions as to how to heal this damage, please bring em on. its sad and depressing arrrgh!

[jsrail]

I've been on neurontin for about 2 years and it hasn't affected me negatively there. guess I've been lucky so far.

[dorrie11]

:confused:Literally one year ago, I happened to be partaking in penis exercises, where you try to stretch and squeeze the penis to try and make it bigger. I figured what the hay and give it a try. Unfortunately I think I pulled too hard or held to tightly on my glans.

Well my glans went numb! In a week, the numbness was gone, but I've had reduced sensitivity. I must say the sensitivity has gotten better over this past year, but still not where it's supposed to be.

I realize I can feel touch on my glans, but I cannot feel temperature (only a little bit of heat, but no cold) or much pain on it. So it goes to show some small fibers must have been damaged. Thinly myelinated and unmyelinated fibers.

Will these ever heal?? I don't believe I tore my nerve, I think that would have hurt! I probably stretched and/or compressed it too hard. Will this finally heal? Has anyone had this happen? What's the last word on nerve damage if it wasn't torn/cut? I mean its been a year now, and I admit it has felt better, and I've felt tiny tingles directly in that area in the past month.

But I think I need some hope or something, this is taking absolutely forever, for such a tiny trauma, that induced no pain, but just numbness at the time. I really pray and hope everything returns to normal. :(

[acer123]

--Please take time to read.

Hey everyone I posted in this forum about the unfortunate incident of me stretching my penis (penis enlargement exercises found on the internet), and then causing numbness in my penis glans. The numbness has definitely gone away but I still feel some reduced sensation (it has been over a year now). Actually the left side of my glans feel a bit more temperature than the right side for instance. I know this sounds like an odd story but its as true as can be, and other people who have done these penis stretching practices have experienced this.

The thread was called, nerve damage in the most unlikely places.
Here is that thread I first posted: http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread50665.html

I however am on here, because most of those people on those sites have limited knowledge on injuries with nerves. So I figured everyone here would know best. I realize the majority of neuropathy here deals with disease/auto immune related. This is one is without a doubt injury related however.

I've done tons of research. I must say I am getting improvement of sensation. I am just wondering if a I have a second degree injury, and not anything further. All I did was use my hands to hold onto my penis and pull, the penis is really resistant to pulling so I think the pressure of my grip over the nerve right behind the penis glans is what caused the damage. So I'd consider it more of a crush injury than a stretch, but you never know.

From what I've read as long as the epineurium is still intact recovery will be 100%, but will take much time (axonotmesis 2nd degree). However beyond 2nd degree, which as far as I can tell seems to be more from missile or blunt trauma types of injuries. The injury I suffered wasn't as I would call it 'severe'. I did not tear my penis, no blood, no bruises, nothing. However I did get numbness the next day I pulled on it.

I am hoping it is only 2nd degree injury known as axonotmesis. And not neurotmesis, which requires 'at least' the epineurium to be ruptured.

I'm just looking for answers, and I can't seem to find anymore than what I know already. I just fear I'll have reduced sensitivity forever, which would be horrible, just from a little experimentation.

This has been a very depressive, slow, yet patience gaining process. I appreciate any help.

I am currently taking about 1 gram of alcar arginate and 40mg's of methylcobalamin to help the nerves out (for a month). I just want to forget this incident and get 100% full recovery. :(


Will it heal to 100%? Do you think it was just 2nd degree nerve injury known as axonotmesis or worse (neurotmesis)? Do the small nerves that don't have myelins heal 100% as well? I really, really appreciate the help. I wish luck to all those with neuropathy of any kind, this is a very tough process.

[acer123]

Anybody?...

[mrsD]

I think your self induced injury is very difficult to visualize.

An experienced urologist would be your best bet.

I personally don't understand how you could have done this.
Given all the potential injuries this part of the body can sustain in crimes, athletics, and surgeries, one would think a doctor
would be able to advise you.

There are websites that discuss circumscision injuries, done to infants, that manifest later in adults. I'd suggest you Google those keywords.

I don't think you need 40mg of B12, that seems like an awful lot. 5mg tops. You also need attention to omega-3's, B6 and folic acid, for nerve repair.

[acer123]

40mg's of methyl b12, speeds up nerve growth rapidly, there's studies on it. no toxicity either.

Regardless of where it is, its an ordinary nerve injury like anywhere else, just looking for someone with experience of injury related nerve damage.

[acer123]

Nobody has experience with injury related neuropathy??

[darlindeb25]

Sorry Acer, I can't speak for anyone else, I know I find this topic redundant. Most of us here have neuropathy, with no fault on our part. You did this to yourself, for no good reason. You will be lucky if the damage reverses itself.

Mrsd gave you good advice, and you dismissed it. Obviously, you really do not want advice, you want attention.

Ignorance is bliss, or is it???

[acer123]

I don't recall dismissing anything. A circumcision has nothing to do with what has happened. I already know about 40mg's study of b12, so. You people seem to have confused neuropathy as being non injury related. Neuropathy is ANY, and I mean ANY disruption of proper nerve function. Whether from injury or auto immune.

I'm looking for someone with answers, who actually has knowledge on this topic.

[Brian]

In answer to your question about " can the small nerves heal 100 % ", all i can say that mine have, which were my both feet & up to my knees caused by elavated blood sugars & low B12, but its taken 5 years to do so, healing was a very slow process in my case, might be similar in your case, i don't really know.

good luck anyway
Brian :)

[acer123]

Cool, and thanks.

[Raglet]

I'm looking for someone with answers, who actually has knowledge on this topic.

Then likely you will have to look beyond this board. Most of us have the good sense not to go swinging on our private parts and would have no clues as to your prospects. I wish you well, but I too find all the attention seeking rather tiring.

Regards

Raglet

[acer123]

Attention seeking? Hardly, I'm looking for answers. Just like any other injury.

[mrsD]

I don't recall dismissing anything. A circumcision has nothing to do with what has happened. I already know about 40mg's study of b12, so. You people seem to have confused neuropathy as being non injury related. Neuropathy is ANY, and I mean ANY disruption of proper nerve function. Whether from injury or auto immune.

I'm looking for someone with answers, who actually has knowledge on this topic.

I will repeat... how this was done when you were a baby, if you had this done, has a huge impact on adult sensation.
In fact this was explained to our family 27 yrs ago when our son had this procedure. So you better look this up.
We were told that permanent damage can result in adulthood from a circumcision done improperly. (my son was done with a "newer" type) That this appears in adulthood and may not be reversible. There are websites showing this with photos-- I am not going to put the links here.

I will say that nerve damage can take YEARS to fix. So try to be patient. You are focusing on only TWO nutrients. More are needed which I listed, to remyelinate nerves. B12 does not work alone.

Good luck.

[acer123]

Lets try to stay on topic here. The circumcision done when I was a child did nothing. It has nothing to do with my current issue.

Further more that is surgery not simply hand manipulation, which is what I did. During circumcision you lose some of the nerve endings in the frenulum and the shaft skin. And there is loss of sensation on the glans, because it is no longer enveloped by any skin, it's open to the free air. I personally don't believe in circumcision, ever, at all, I find it stupid just as much as I find religion stupid, but I do enjoy spirituality.

But oh yes back on topic. I caused a possible stretch type, but probable compression type nerve injury. And I'm looking for someone experienced in that arena.

I appreciate the good luck, thanks. I am taking multivitamin as well. As well as eating tons of protein and fats. And years is a long time, sigh.

[mrsD]

you seem pretty informed to me.

I think you have reached a ceiling of knowledge, and are
now beating a dead horse.
:deadhorsebeat:

[darlindeb25]

I don't recall dismissing anything. A circumcision has nothing to do with what has happened. I already know about 40mg's study of b12, so. You people seem to have confused neuropathy as being non injury related. Neuropathy is ANY, and I mean ANY disruption of proper nerve function. Whether from injury or auto immune.

I'm looking for someone with answers, who actually has knowledge on this topic.

Mrsd is the most knowledgeable person I know when it comes to vitamins, and you did dismiss her response to you. 40mgs is way too much to be taking, and most of us know that.

I have not confused neuropathy as being non-injury related. Yes it is an disruption of nerve function, and an accident is an accident. This was no accident, you did this to yourself. Most of us have either been injured accidentally, heriditary factors, auto-immune results, or an unknown origin.

I agree, you are beating a dead horse...lets move on.

[nide44]

Hey, guy.
I guess we just don't have any answers for you.
As you probably have noticed-most of the posters here are not men,
(so they do not relate to your issues) nor do they work in the health field.
You can pretty much fioigure out by now, that you've
come to the end of the road, here.
The exceptions are Mrs D, & Glenntaj.
If they don't know, or have given you advice, that's it!
Finito!, Genug!, Nada!, Nothing More !

[glenntaj]

--but I did try to do an Internet search for the situation, and couldn't find anything that seemd applicable. (In fact, most of what did come up seemed to fit more into the porn category than anything else, and was of dubious origin.)

It's certainly possible to injure nerves through "overstretching", which will tned to damage axonal fibers and/or fray myelin sheathing. And nerve regeneration is possible, but it tends to be very slow (such as you seem to be experiencing), and often incomplete. At the very least, sensations may be different than before, as when nerve fibers grow back, they seldom do so in the same configuration as they were originally, and the brain may take a while to determine how to interpret the sensations.

I suppose the real question, from a male perspective, is are you having functional difficulties. That may be an area in which help is possible (as witness the various erectile medications, which are often used by people with MS and other disorders of nerve function).

[acer123]

Nah, its not a tear like that. I didn't rip my penis off. And in the world of penis enlargement the nerve damage only comes from when you stretch only comes and apply 'pressure' to the dorsal nerve at the top. Not anywhere else. Hence, showing its a compression nerve injury not a stretch.

[nide44]

acer,
Don't you get it?
We don't have any more answers for you.
Look elsewhere.

[mrsD]

What ever is driving you, Acer, to focus on this enlargement subject and now obsessing on what you can feel and what you cannot, needs professional attention.

Since you can function normally as you have stated, I'd seriously get some psychological help to enable you to deal with this subject more completely. Perhaps your answers will be found there.

[Shockpirate]

I am no doctor, but I know a lot about this topic, because the same thing happened to me.

The exercise you where doing is called Jelqing. IT IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS! I caused nerve damage to myself with that exercise.

I injured myself pretty bad with Jelqing, and was about to give up until I started researching nerve damage for like 6 hours a day for a week.

These are things that I do to heal nerve damage...

1. Stay off the bicycle

2. Do not let your penis flop around a lot (avoid running)

3. Take Male Reproductive Factors by Micheals
This has a ton of Zinc and B-Vitamins in it. Very good for erections.

4. Take Ginseng
This helps with erections.

5. Take Ginkgo Biloba
This helps with blood flow and erections.

6. Take Nerve Blend SP-14 by Solary
This helps repair the nerves and calms them down.

7. Take Organic Flax seed Oil
This helps repair and strengthen the nerves.

8. Take the cell salts Ferrum Phos., Kali. Phos. and Mag. Phos. by Hylands
Good for nerve growth

9. I am researching Advanced Yohimbe-Plus by Iwin Naturals
I think it may help, but have yet to try.

I started taking this stuff 1 month ago and I already feel MUCH MUCH BETTER!!!

GOOD LUCK and remember if your are on any medication or have a serious illness talk to your doctor before taking any of this stuff.

[Shockpirate]

Here is other stuff you can do.

1. Avoid salt, unless its unrefined organic sea salt.

2. Avoid Sugar

3. Avoid processed foods.

4. Exercise a lot (in the form of walking for a REALLY long time)

5. Avoid lifting anything to heavy (this may upset the nerves.)

6. do not lay on your penis (aka don't lay on your stomach)

7. If you are going to masturbate then use a lot of lube.

8. If your going to have sex, make sure to go slower and do not pound so hard.

9. Eat as much organic foods as your can.

10. Get a lot of sleep (most repairing happens in the sleep)

11. Meditate

12. Avoid eating anything out of aluminum. It is bad for the nervous system.

13. Stay way from chemicals as best as you can. (IE if your are the bug spray man, quit)

[Neuropathy76]

Literally one year ago, I happened to be partaking in penis exercises, where you try to stretch and squeeze the penis to try and make it bigger. I figured what the hay and give it a try. Unfortunately I think I pulled too hard or held to tightly on my glans.

Well my glans went numb! In a week, the numbness was gone, but I've had reduced sensitivity. I must say the sensitivity has gotten better over this past year, but still not where it's supposed to be.

I realize I can feel touch on my glans, but I cannot feel temperature (only a little bit of heat, but no cold) or much pain on it. So it goes to show some small fibers must have been damaged. Thinly myelinated and unmyelinated fibers.

Will these ever heal?? I don't believe I tore my nerve, I think that would have hurt! I probably stretched and/or compressed it too hard. Will this finally heal? Has anyone had this happen? What's the last word on nerve damage if it wasn't torn/cut? I mean its been a year now, and I admit it has felt better, and I've felt tiny tingles directly in that area in the past month.

But I think I need some hope or something, this is taking absolutely forever, for such a tiny trauma, that induced no pain, but just numbness at the time. I really pray and hope everything returns to normal. :(

Acer: I know its been awhile since you incident, but I am in the same predictament. I was wondering if you have healed 100%. Its been only 6 weeks for me...the numbness is gone, but I am still heavily de-sensitized. It sounds like we did the same type of damage. Any info you have would be GREATLY appreciated. Hope you still check your email and this account.

PS. Went to a urologist and he said that it would most likely heal...Hope he is right.

[spidered]

Hey Neuropathy76,
I have been experiencing the same numbness in my glans due to nerve compression as with you and acer for about 5 weeks now. There is some touch sensitivity on the outer skin but no temperature or pressure sensitivity.

Has your numbness recovered any since you posted last month? Mine has been staying the same so far. I am optimistic considering no serious damage could have been done but also frustrated that I have to wait for an uncertain amount of time to heal.
I've found a few older internet posts on this subject where the original poster drops off after a couple weeks and does not give status updates further down the road, which sucks. Personal accounts are far more valuable than articles.

[mrgas]

Hey, Acer, I'm sorry for such long post, but I'm sure that I could relate to your thread here.
I have Penile numbness too. I will explain my numbness in this comment.

I read through most all of the comments you recieved here and I'm sorry that you have been given little sympathy. I haven't seen much sympathy either since I began seeking medical help for mine. I guess it is easy to say that we are seeking attention cause being men we tend to freak out when we are faced with genital problems. But I wouldn't see it as a weakness cause we have to take care of our reproductivity ability (if no men cared humans could end up extinct!), Right? Because of my situation I've taken alot of time and effort searching for techniques, treatments and nutritional advice, so that's how I came across this at neurotalk. That all was promising but for me not the least bit of a cure. Perhaps you'll do well to take nutrition and healthy living as a "must do" since it could avoid some other problem that is potentialy just as undesirable as the numbness or worse. Just common sense is not what I mean to preach, but since you have seen recovery of some sensation, it's hopefull that with time, more improvement will occur. I hope you can keep a record/diary of the changes since that could help others in future if you'd be willing to share it. I've also found info pertaining to injury to a penis from stretching exercises/techniques. I know you're not alone for that type of injury.
The likely cause of my numbness is from nerve damage in the penis itself. I have had Stuttering/Recurring Priapism throughout the past 17 years. This is an erection that persists without reason for times longer than normal (more than 4 hours at a time)causing variable degrees of damage to erectile tissues, nerves, blood vessels, tunica albuginea, and various related muscles. There has not been any reason determined (diagnosis) why I have these priapismic episodes. And in all my research Stuttering Priapism is usually not found to have any underlying cause. In my case it started gradually in my early teens and became most severe in my early 20's then stopped suddenly only to begin gradually again in my 30's. Throughout all this time I've suffered with loss of sensation in my penis to many varying degrees. The worst being in my 20's after an episode that lasted 11hours. It was traumatic to realize that I had no feeling in my penis anywhere like it was no longer a part of me. I couldn't acheive erection or pleasure until more than a year later. But it never ever became 100% sensation since that time. My penis glans has become the least sensitve of all my genital areas. I'm assuming its because that is the longest and most delicate/vulnerable of the nerve pathways in the penis. When I did recover some sensation it was always the frenulum that recovered first. I'm very thankfull to still have that intact since I was circumcised as an infant but have read that some circumcision procedures do remove the frenulum portion too. I seemed to recover sensation gradually but only when the priapismic episodes stopped occuring for longer than a month. And I often had sensation loss immediately after the next episode of priapism. As you might guess my sexlife is an "isn't",but I'm very happily married to the most wounderful woman and have a miracle too (my very own son)!;)
The other possibility to my numbness is a spinal nerve issue. I have had some traumas in the past to my lower back (car accident x2) (falling on ice ahhh TAILBONE!)(hit in back with baseball bat)(heavy lifting and immediate pain) (riding bicycle BMX style)and (off-road motorcycling). The last two were almost worth the risk but at least "intentional".
I'd be ok with sharing more if you can reach me on this forum or via email. But best of luck and hope your future is brighter.:wink:

[agent0]

Back in 2006 when I was 19 I was masturbating and was too rough with my penis. I pushed down on it heard a crack their was hematoma, pain followed by numbness. I went to the urologist days later. He told me everything was fine and just wait. Then he gave me an ultrasound just in case. So I took the ultrasound and everything came back fine.

My penis was numb for a couple of months until I masturbated one day and all the sensitivity in my penis came back after orgasm. Stupidly, I masturbated again and this time the ejaculate was 5 seconds off from the orgasm. That never happened to me before so I masturbated again, but this time I had no orgasm but I ejaculated. I masturbated again but the same thing happened. I masturbated again but the same thing happened. So I freaked out and grabbed the bottom shaft of my penis and squeezed it hard with my right hand. Then all the sensitivity just drifted away and I was numb again.

Ever since then the underside of my penis has been numb. The right underside of the shaft is numb. The right shaft is numb. The head isn’t as sensitive anymore. Orgasms are less pleasurable. And the head doesn’t get super sensitive after orgasms anymore. Now I can’t get erections from visual stimulation ,or hugging and kissing or just being close to a girl. I need direct stimulation to my penis to get an erection.

I’ve done 2 ultrasounds and a MRI that all came back normal.

Cause of numbness?
1. Dorsal nerve is compressed
2. compression of the dorsal nerve of the penis against the lower border of the pubic bone
3. dorsal nerve is compressed by penis ligament
4. pudendal nerve entrapment
5. damaged dorsal nerve in penis
6. damaged sensory nerves

i went to the neurologist 2 days ago and he said it could be a compressed nerve or it could be peripheral nerve damage which im praying its not. he gave me 2 mri's one for lumbar spine and one for pelvis which im going to do in 4 days.

what do you guys think? do you think it could most likely be peripheral nerve damage? or a trapped nerve?

is their surgery for this type of injury?

do you think this is permanent? its already been 5 years :(

[glenntaj]

--that these symptoms followed trauma, compression of either the dorsal nerve of the penis or the major nerve it branches off of, the pudendal nerve, is likely.

It's good they're doing MRI's, but make sure that when they do the one of the pelvis the radiological interpreters are told to specifically look at the pudendal nerve branches and the areas they pass through--soemtimes they pay more attention to the hip bones themselves.

See:

http://www.pudendal.com/

http://www.pudendalhope.org/

http://www.tipna.org/

[john1960]

Hello everyone,

Have posted this elsewhere but this seems the better place.

Sensitive info here but hopefully you can help.

About 8 months ago I sustained a sexual injury to my penis where I felt an extremely sharp pain at the base. I had been experiencing some loss of sensitivity leading up to this (possibly due to alcohol or a little to much masturbation) but after this injury I have now sustained about 60-70% loss of sensitivity.

I am trying to abstain from all sex and masturbation and have been doing hot/cold wraps, b6, b12, sam-e, carnitine/ALA.

I believe when symptoms first started to appear I didnt give things enough time to heal and most likely kept irritating the nerves. Just these past couple months have I started this regimen.

So my question is after all this time and some repeated irritation of the nerves after injury, am I past the point of no return? Could I still have a chance to regenerate? Can nerves heal if not completely severed?

Maybe I should get some MRIs of the pelvic/penile area as well to make sure nothing major happened during the injury in terms of a compressed/pinched nerve?

Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[agent0]

so it turn out iv been doing some research and when all the sensation came back i think i had a incomplete injury **

im hoping that it is still incomplete injury even through 5 years have passed...sigh

just in case you don't know after the sensation came back...i ** squeezed my penis because i was ejaculating and then orgasming 5 seconds later so i freaked out and squeezed my penis ** and its been numb ever since

[agent0]

in the mornings its the worst its extremely numb and uncomfortable i feel like theirs so much pressure on my pubic bone. i still get morning erections but they go away extremely fast unlike before.

can people give me opinions please?

[Dr. Smith]

can people give me opinions please?

I know you're a bit young, but has anyone screened your prostate just to rule it out as a factor?

[agent0]

yeah they my uro would of told me about it in the soft tissue mri that i got back.

i really wish i just didnt squeeze my penis once i got the sensation back and its been 5 years already. im so sad. iv been praying so much that this isnt permanent.:(

[joey1623]

yeah they my uro would of told me about it in the soft tissue mri that i got back.

i really wish i just didnt squeeze my penis once i got the sensation back and its been 5 years already. im so sad. iv been praying so much that this isnt permanent.:(


Hey man,

I hear you guys, I have had the exact same problems. I did those stretching exercises (even though I didnt need to, I was just very insecure) and after masturbating one night I was left with little sensation in m penis and all the other classic symptoms.

Symptoms included, as Im sure you may have experienced:

- Lack of sensation
- Lack of nocturnal and spontaneous erection
-'Firm flaccid' penis

My Dr was absolutely of no help - he said to just take it easy and hope for the best.

I have found that in the year since it happened, Gingko Biloba has helped a lot and there are other similar products out there.

My feeling is that the nerves are so delicate etc that it will take a few years to fully rejuvenate.

Thanks and please share your thoughts on this

[agent0]

can someone tell me their opinion if they think my problem is permanent?

[charleston]

can someone tell me their opinion if they think my problem is permanent?

Omg! I wish I swear I had been around in 08 when this thread was created. *edit*

Short and simple: Before I even had a girlfriend or knew about vagina I was a 14 masterbating I rarely tried new things. But as always in the back of are darn mind we always wonder can it get better. Long story short I squezzed to hard and lost ALL sensation just like everyone has explained. It's not rockect science yes we can still get erections yes we can still ejaculate but we literally are numb!!! ethier because have squezzed are penises so hard or strecthed them to where we strecthed something inside. I can get erections (its extremely hard tho) and I can ejeculate but there is a incredible loss of sensation. It's like when you slam your finger in the door and it goes numb. But ten times worse I can't feel wind pain or nothing! So lets skip the explanations and jump back to the story 6 years later and here I am 20. My girlfriend comes over and wants to try something new O-O I say ok what? She says its baisiclly a cock ring (and it is) but a rubber band. Me knowing the use of it already (holds erections) I say ok 15 minutes later my penis dies. Literally slumps and not only that it receds into my body I literally have been walking around with a smaller penis. With no feeling whstsoever. So let me take you away from the sad story and bring you to the light. As a person who has experienced this whatever it is it heals....basiclly grab a calender and count backward from 2014 or 2015. Yep years. And did it ever go back to 100% hardness no it never ever phased me i thought about it........idk this time its definitely way worse. I'm glad I'm here to help I often see people post and never ever return well im here to tell you there's hope and its fine.

[agent0]

so iv gotten the results back for my mri for lumbar spine and pelvis and everything is fine. I talked to my uro today and he wants me to go back to the neurologist, so im going to do that. wish me luck

Charleston: is the underside of your penis numb? did you have any penile trauma?

do you have that feeling where subconsciously where u can feel your penis?

[agent0]

**

i went to the neurologist and showed him my mri's but he said the dorsal nerves look fine to him. i asked him if i should get a emg but he said he didnt think it would help. i had a lumbar spine mri done which came back fine and a mri for the pelvis which came back fine. so theirs nothing wrong with my back.

what should i do? should i go to a different neurologist and try to get an emg?

my penis has gotten alot darker since the injury. i may have a mild ischemia, and i do have scar tissue inside of it. iv recently just bought some pentoxiflynn that will maybe help with the nerves. im so confused i dont wanna be numb anymore :Sob:

anyone know if any scar tissue or lumps can have an affect on nerves in the penis?

[agent0]

does anyone know if pentoxifylnn will help get the nerves back and running?

[mrsD]

One member on our Thoracic Outlet forum researched pentoxifylline.

Here is the post:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post731174-1.html

I know very little besides what is on that post. Also unclear is whether longstanding damage can ever be reversed. But it is worth reading it in detail to evaluate it.

It sounds to me like you need a specialist --urologist for your answers.

[agent0]

thank you so much for replying mrsd! iv read some articles on how pentox helps with nerve damage plus softening and dissolving scar tissue.

i have some questions
is there vasa nervorum in the penis? like the blood vessels that supply blood and oxygen to the peripheral nerves? ever since i squeezed my penis losing my sensitivity, its been discolored like it isnt getting any fresh blood. almost like a shaded black, but it used to be very bright and yellow. so im thinking if the vasa vervnoum are compressed from the scar tissue and if the nerves arnt getting alot of fresh blood, mild ischemia can occur, right? which is causing my mild discoloration along with the numbness?

this is where i hope pentoxifylline might help, because the pentoxifylline makes the red blood cells flexible so they can squeeze in through the vasa nervorum and get blood and oxygen into the nerves.

i have another question, nerve injuries gradually heal right? but mine didnt, the sensation spontaneously returned after a session of masturbation and then i squeezed it again because i freaked out because i was ejaculating but not orgasming, which is the dumbest thing...i know i reminded how dumb it was everyday. are the nerve injuries that usually spontaneously return are those the injuries where a nerve is compressed and uncompresses itself?

iv also been taking b12, and i also went to the neurologist who looked at my dorsal nerves from the mri and told me everything looked fine, but how can it be when im this numb and i cant even feel my penis or feel my urethra when i pee.
i asked him if i could get a emg, but he said he dosent think it will help much and he dosent know much about that. so know i feel utterly helpless and dont know what to do. should i go to a urogloist who specializes in neurogenic dysfunction or should i go another neurologist and try to get an emg for the penis?

iv already been to my urologist who thinks i should go to a neurologist.





One member on our Thoracic Outlet forum researched pentoxifylline.

Here is the post:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post731174-1.html

I know very little besides what is on that post. Also unclear is whether longstanding damage can ever be reversed. But it is worth reading it in detail to evaluate it.

It sounds to me like you need a specialist --urologist for your answers.

[ritesofspring]

The people over at ** and** have seemed to come to the conclusion that this is a Pelvic Floor area muscular issue and not related to nerve damage at all but rather contracted muscles compressing nerves.

**

It seems that physical therapy is the only real cure for this.

If it is indeed tissue/bloodvessel/ or nerve damage in the penis then I guess only time, rest, and rehab can heal that. But many have gone years without much improvement. Pelvic floor and trigger point physical therapy so far has a better track record.

[charleston]

**** i've been looking for this thread for this thread for months.

Update: Instead of not having intercourse and stuff for some dumb reason I did and not only has my orginal problems continued but my orgasms are less powerful which on top of everything esle is ******* me off. -.- I'm basiclly going to start off with everything you did and try my best to explain it to these ******** docters. It literally is like your finger gets stubbed in a **** door and everything just goes numb. There's no magical way to explain it that hits it right on the nail for me. I have went thru this problem once before so to all coming upon this post get off of this ******* thread and go see a doctor and DO NOT HAVE SEX. Do not let them tell you it's ******** and what your body is feeling makes no sense this is your ******* life take hold of it.

MRI
Diabetes
Broken Nerves
Blood Clot
Vessels Erupted
Blood not flowing
Lumpy
Poor circulation
Color change
Testostrone
Monosat fats

All thing you need to relay and ask a doc these are things I found other people researched or a doctor told them spanning from over hundreds of websites. People of the same excact problem but no cure I swear....anyhow just as long as this is documented so whoever sees hopefully I helped. I think the most ******* thing I did was get on the internet and search my problems when I should have went to a doctor. GO TO A DOCTOR.

(My orginal post is above from months ago hope I helped now im going to get my **** fixed :P)

[boom1987]

Literally one year ago, I happened to be partaking in penis exercises, where you try to stretch and squeeze the penis to try and make it bigger. I figured what the hay and give it a try. Unfortunately I think I pulled too hard or held to tightly on my glans.

Well my glans went numb! In a week, the numbness was gone, but I've had reduced sensitivity. I must say the sensitivity has gotten better over this past year, but still not where it's supposed to be.

I realize I can feel touch on my glans, but I cannot feel temperature (only a little bit of heat, but no cold) or much pain on it. So it goes to show some small fibers must have been damaged. Thinly myelinated and unmyelinated fibers.

Will these ever heal?? I don't believe I tore my nerve, I think that would have hurt! I probably stretched and/or compressed it too hard. Will this finally heal? Has anyone had this happen? What's the last word on nerve damage if it wasn't torn/cut? I mean its been a year now, and I admit it has felt better, and I've felt tiny tingles directly in that area in the past month.

But I think I need some hope or something, this is taking absolutely forever, for such a tiny trauma, that induced no pain, but just numbness at the time. I really pray and hope everything returns to normal. :(

I have the same problem. Its been about a week and has not gotten better.

[boom1987]

Hey man,

I hear you guys, I have had the exact same problems. I did those stretching exercises (even though I didnt need to, I was just very insecure) and after masturbating one night I was left with little sensation in m penis and all the other classic symptoms.

Symptoms included, as Im sure you may have experienced:

- Lack of sensation
- Lack of nocturnal and spontaneous erection
-'Firm flaccid' penis

My Dr was absolutely of no help - he said to just take it easy and hope for the best.

I have found that in the year since it happened, Gingko Biloba has helped a lot and there are other similar products out there.

My feeling is that the nerves are so delicate etc that it will take a few years to fully rejuvenate.

Thanks and please share your thoughts on this

Has your condition gotten any better since you last wrote anything here?

[boom1987]

Hey man,

I hear you guys, I have had the exact same problems. I did those stretching exercises (even though I didnt need to, I was just very insecure) and after masturbating one night I was left with little sensation in m penis and all the other classic symptoms.

Symptoms included, as Im sure you may have experienced:

- Lack of sensation
- Lack of nocturnal and spontaneous erection
-'Firm flaccid' penis

My Dr was absolutely of no help - he said to just take it easy and hope for the best.

I have found that in the year since it happened, Gingko Biloba has helped a lot and there are other similar products out there.

My feeling is that the nerves are so delicate etc that it will take a few years to fully rejuvenate.

Thanks and please share your thoughts on this

what percentage of sensation would you say that you have gained back in the time since the injury? how long ago did the injury occur?

[Teslacoil]

Hi to you all,

i just registered for this kind of problem. To my history i get no sexual sensations from my glans since nearly 8 years. Since 8 years i tought i was hit by en EBV-Virus infections so hard that it still does affect me, because i got still problems with motivation and concentration and so on and so is my sex-drive non-existent, before that i was a sex monster. Then 2 weeks ago i felt pretty good and realized that the cause that my penis doenst work at all might be really nerve damage. And im pretty sure it is. I thought 8 years its all in my mind but it isnt my mind is clear. Whats really crazy is and i can tell you is when you have no sexdrive at all (and no its NOT just in your mind - chop of your friend youll see) you will loose all motivation for doing anything in life, sounds pretty stupid i know but believe me all thats how our brains work, doing anything which could give you the chance to make babies will make you fun to to. But if you have no sexdrive youre not useful anymore for the nature. To myself just that you know, i really good looking guy well educated did/could have to most gorgeous babes in the world but cant because his friend down there doenst sent him any pleasureable feelings anymore up to his brain.

OK, i know i sound a bit ruff, but iam pretty down at the moment. All i wanted to say is that i will go on monday to one of the best doctors in the world (hes pretty famous) and he´ll do an high res ultrasound to check for the dorsalnerves. When he is finding something i will tell you but i dont know what in the world he could do to help me otherwise he got some Star-Trek medicine techniques i dont know.

Before i forget i did also those streching techniques not really professionell but just a few times under the shower for a few seconds but with hugh force i think about 100N or more.

All i can say is that this ist the worst what to a man can happen besides getting full handicapped in sitting in an wheelchair.

I hope on monday this doc has miracles in his pocket, otherwise iam pretty much doomed for my life.