Welcome..Why do most people start with medication instead if takingother alternatives

[prettynpinkk]

Hello everyone,

I have just joined this site and i really hope i can learn from it. I struggle everyday to survive these demons of mental health. If anyone can help to enlighten me with knowledge, strategies, NATURAL WAYS to help ADD, chronic anxiety, OCD, Depression, Body dismorfic disorder, racing thoughts Post traumatic stress disorder for my son, and maybe even border line skitzo frinic for myself than i would be more and welcome to read and take it your suggestions.

Thanks

I will post more when I get all my notes together


Here is also a note I posted in the depresson category

Hi, i was a person with server depression.( please excuse my spellingi have some learning DIFFICULLTIES) At first i started eating lot less processed food and drank alot of water, BIG improvement! Than i start excersing , after that everything started falling into place and was much smoother.

If i may get off topic for a second, i really wish people would stop thinking they have to "deal with it and move on"...that sounds like something your stuck with for the rest of your life. WELL YOUR NOT! I think people need to talk more, get resources, and follow your dreams thats all. As soon as i started eating better and exercising every thing else feel into place, i became more confident and motivated to do things. I seen a vibrant side come out that i did not want to go away. I can tell you the biggest thing i dealt with was motivation, well it doesn’t take much to cook, u have to anyway, midess well eat healthy. Different salads or rice each side order. Water , water , water, but no too much it can over work your bladder and go into failure .

Now i am starting acupuncture , which holly crap helps with my chronic anxiety by 80% and i have only went once so far , which is starting to take away my depression , which is making me more vibrant...see how every thing falls into place.

Monday i start yoga classes and also hypnotherapy. I have heard ALOT of goods things from these also. I keep falling into depression but the days are getting shorter of me being in it. I have been struggling a bit right now, but because of some issues i will explain a little more when i have my notes together.

ANYONE TAKING MEDICATION FOR WHAT EVER PLEASE CHECK INTO THE MEDICATION FIRST, AND NOT JUST A FEW WEBSITES 100'S , WHATS YOUR LIFE WORTH A FEW OR 100'S. GO TO THE LIBRARY, TAKE NOTES.

All i'm saying is you are never stuck with mental health as long as you believe it u will have it. And just because a doctor gives you medication doesn’t mean that should be your first route. One thing all doctors say no matter if there family doctor or homeopathic doctors, they will all say eating healthy and exercising is the best out of everything.

Will write more about all the difficulties and strategies i have latter.

Would love to hear replies of those who took these steps or are in the process

[Vowel Lady]

I saw your post and replied there as well.
It is one that interests me, because I personally have gotten a lot of relief from mild depression just by taking a variety of vitamin supplements, but the ones that I believe help me the most are the B vitamins. In fact, I take a separate B50 tablet. In addition, I think another "all natural" thing that is most helpful is regular exercise (which you already mentioned).

I have heard that the Omega 3 supplements are good for both depression and ADD.

Other things I have heard about that help to fight depression include:
Eating a well balanced diet, getting sunlight regularly, getting enough sleep each night and massage.

Some people take natural supplements when they have insomnia...like melatonin for example. Other things that help: warm milk, relaxation tapes, sea salt baths.

You might want to consider posting specific questions on the vitamin/supplement board.

[GladysD]

On top of eating well, exercise, and getting enough sleep. CBT, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is a great start. It's geared towards everything from OCD to Schizophrenia. It's Rational Therapy. Another form of therapy out there, that I've heard is pricey is DBT. Diablectic (sp?) Behavior Therapy. It's a form of therapy that teaches how to not be controlled by your emotions.

There's a good deal of books out there today, that anyone can pick up and read and find rather useful. I'm of the mindset that it takes more than just pills to make therapy effective. There are a good deal of cases where meds may need to be used right away, and there's nothing wrong with that, whatsoever.

There are many out there that are apprehensive about taking meds, and with some of the side-effects, they certainly have their good reasons, as well. And there's nothing wrong with that, either. :)

I say so long as one can put themselves into a recovery pattern towards wellness, then there is no need to feel trapped by the term, mental illness.

[Vowel Lady]

Gladys...I totally agree! Therapy is very important. Having a healthy mental attitude/outlook is vital. I'm of the belief that happiness starts with controlling our thoughts. We can't always control what happens to us (although often we deceive ourselves into thinking we have less control than we really have), but one thing we always have control of how we can look at something or respond to it. I guess for me, responding to a health concern by exploring healthy alternatives in an effort to limit medication side effects is helpful and empowering.

Again, I totally agree in the idea that mental health counselling is an excellent way to start the healing process when faced with depression. Can you suggest any good books? What are your favorites?

[prettynpinkk]

Gladys...I totally agree! Therapy is very important. Having a healthy mental attitude/outlook is vital. I'm of the belief that happiness starts with controlling our thoughts. We can't always control what happens to us (although often we deceive ourselves into thinking we have less control than we really have), but one thing we always have control of how we can look at something or respond to it. I guess for me, responding to a health concern by exploring healthy alternatives in an effort to limit medication side effects is helpful and empowering.

Again, I totally agree in the idea that mental health counselling is an excellent way to start the healing process when faced with depression. Can you suggest any good books? What are your favorites?



I never got into reading books, but i bought my first book in years about 3 weeks ago. It's called " Just who am I" by Maria Striver ( Arnold Swartsnegger wife). It's not to do with mental health by just taking care of YOURSELF. The book is only 80 pages and took me about an hour in a half to read. I was so amazed by it that i bought it for my step mother and mother. This is the kinda of book that you read it about 20times and get something knew out of it every time. And like isaidi don't like reading books but this was very easy tp follow and just AMAZING!! And it's only $16 WOOOOOOOW

I am struggling right now, and just put a post up yesterday in the genral mantal health form, it's the first thread in themental health section.
Talk to you soon

[GladysD]

Gladys...I totally agree! Therapy is very important. Having a healthy mental attitude/outlook is vital. I'm of the belief that happiness starts with controlling our thoughts. We can't always control what happens to us (although often we deceive ourselves into thinking we have less control than we really have), but one thing we always have control of how we can look at something or respond to it. I guess for me, responding to a health concern by exploring healthy alternatives in an effort to limit medication side effects is helpful and empowering.

Again, I totally agree in the idea that mental health counselling is an excellent way to start the healing process when faced with depression. Can you suggest any good books? What are your favorites?

If you are looking for a CBT book, I read and worked through "The Clients Guide to Cognitive Behavioral Therapy:How to lead a healthy and happy life no matter what"(Aldo)
I'm waiting on a DBT book called "Don't let your Emotions Run Your Life:How Dialectical Behavior Therapy can put you in control"(Spradlin)--I've read some of the authors blogs on-line and I'm interested to read this one..

Some of my favorites: :"Who's Pulling your strings"(Braiker)
"From Anger to Forgiveness"(Larsen w/Hegarty)
and right now, my ultimate fav that I'm finding most useful right now in my life, one that I'm considering re-reading..."Facing the Fire:Experiencing and Expressing Anger Appropriately"(Lee)

There's so much out there, many different things will appeal to different individuals at different stages of their lives. I'd certainly check out the reviews on the various authors through sites like amazon and barnes & nobles. I don't mind buying the used books and obtaining several at once for close to $30/give or take :)

When it comes to our emotional health, sometimes we've got to grab the bull by horns and get proactive with it.

Hope those suggestions are of some use :hug:

[GladysD]

Gladys...I totally agree! Therapy is very important. Having a healthy mental attitude/outlook is vital. I'm of the belief that happiness starts with controlling our thoughts. We can't always control what happens to us (although often we deceive ourselves into thinking we have less control than we really have), but one thing we always have control of how we can look at something or respond to it. I guess for me, responding to a health concern by exploring healthy alternatives in an effort to limit medication side effects is helpful and empowering.

Again, I totally agree in the idea that mental health counselling is an excellent way to start the healing process when faced with depression. Can you suggest any good books? What are your favorites?

I never got into reading books, but i bought my first book in years about 3 weeks ago. It's called " Just who am I" by Maria Striver ( Arnold Swartsnegger wife). It's not to do with mental health by just taking care of YOURSELF. The book is only 80 pages and took me about an hour in a half to read. I was so amazed by it that i bought it for my step mother and mother. This is the kinda of book that you read it about 20times and get something knew out of it every time. And like isaidi don't like reading books but this was very easy tp follow and just AMAZING!! And it's only $16 WOOOOOOOW

I am struggling right now, and just put a post up yesterday in the genral mantal health form, it's the first thread in themental health section.
Talk to you soon

Thanks :) I actually have that book on my list through the MSAA's Lending Library :cool:

[GladysD]

Here is an interesting blog, thanks Dr. John, about non-drug alternatives for ADHD.

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/08/19/non-drug-alternatives-for-adhd-proven-effective/

[prettynpinkk]

Another way without medication

So if you do not remember me i am the hypnotherapy girl. Well let me bring you up to date. I love it. Its still kinda of hard to hypnotize me, but theres such thing as a real small trans something that i felt a little. It expensive through. I am paying $1200 for 12 sessions or $125 a session. An hour half. I am on disability, but i think other health plans may cover it. I rented a 3 bedroom plus finshed basement and now and renting out the 3 rooms. It gives me $950-$1300 a month plus my $1000 D.B cheque. Don't think i am some couch potato. I am a full time student, and will be starting the voulenteering at the Alzheimers socity and the sicence centre in a few weeks.

K getting off topic like i seem to do alot, hypnotherapy is also most like a spirtual healing, and i'm no even in to all that. One thing i have learned so far about myself, and this was not brought up yet in hypno, but i have figured out that i am addicted to my mental health. I knew i was in a sence , well i knew alot( lol) but it's almost like i have another piece of the puzzle.

For me i diaignose myself with alot of things, but so have doctors. But i will hear something , ex: Autism people can't look u in the eye for a long time, i dignose myself with borderline autism. I'm crazy huh. I learned from a good doctor friend of mine is that we all have a bit of paranoya, sitzo frinna, anxiety, so on. What i did was like always blow things out of extreme because i seen these things and heard about these things so i obssesses about them so much that the syptoms got worse to where i really starting liven the life of a person with mental disorders.

Have you ever heard of people being tricked into taking sugar pills when they think its there pills to help their mental health, and nothing out of the ordinary in personality change.

I still struggle alot, but things are always getting better especially the last couple days since i found out something knew about myself. It gets better than it gets worse, and it does that for a while but you have to push through that dizzy, nausa , rasing thought feeling and self talk yourself out of it. If like me you can't think of things to say good about yourself than write down 3 and just keep sayin them, it gets better, u know why?..is because theres proven psyical things in your body like little good cells that get released when praising yourself,going outin the sun, excersing why do you think they say prayer is so important not because of god but because it lets those good cells knock out the bad cells. Their not cells but you know what i mean i hope.

They say you should take 10minutes a day, in the morning they say is the best. But lay in your bed and just talk to yourself, not about " what i need to do or be" but self talking yuorself and praiseing yourself. I am not a religious person but i am starting to like prayer to MYSELF.

Wel i'm going ot end this off now, for now. But alway try something than just a pill for mental health.

[GladysD]

Yes, many refer to it as meditation! Glad you are finding something to help you cope with your inner turmoil :)

Have you taken the test to diagnose the autism that you think you have?

[prettynpinkk]

Yes, many refer to it as meditation! Glad you are finding something to help you cope with your inner turmoil :)

Have you taken the test to diagnose the autism that you think you have?

No, i have'nt not yet. I'm going ot wait on that. I really would like help figuring out my P.D though.

Thanks For the reply

[GladysD]

No, i have'nt not yet. I'm going ot wait on that. I really would like help figuring out my P.D though.

Thanks For the reply

Alright :) Simply put, Borderline PD is an emotional dysregulation. Rumor has it, that they are going to change the classification for the DSM-V manual...dropping it from a personality disorder to an emotional dysregulation...aka Mood Disorder.

Borderlines suffer from an extreme fear of abandonment. Here are the 9 criteria...a BPD only needs to meet 5 of the 9 requirements for classification.

{snip}Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. [Not including suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5]
A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.
Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., promiscuous sex, eating disorders, binge eating, substance abuse, reckless driving). [Again, not including suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5]
Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, threats, or self-mutilating behavior such as cutting, interfering with the healing of scars, or picking at oneself.
Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
Chronic feelings of emptiness, worthlessness.
Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).
Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation, delusions or severe dissociative symptoms {end snip}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder

CBT and DBT are the proven therapies out there to help a Borderline overcome themselves. CBT--Cognitive Behavior Therapy aka Rational Therapy and DBT--Dialectical Behavior Therapy.

The focus is on Progression, not Perfection! The idea is to improve self-esteem, find self acceptance and learn to function at a level that fits your personality style! :)

I'm soooo glad you posted here!!! Of all the mental issues out there....Borderline is something I've learned sooooo much about over the past 18 months.

I had a rocky marriage there for a while. When I was trying to figure out why I was going through the things I was going through and went to my state's dv site, they mentioned this. I looked it up, found an on-line support system and have been in that 'group' ever since. I've learned lots about the illness, lots about myself and lots about life in general! That's why I 'know' so much about this disorder.

It's not a character defect in the least. It's just a way of thinking due to life's issues that seems to have overwhelmed many in this world.

I wish you the best of luck! I'm so glad that you are on the path towards wellness! It's a daily struggle and my hat is always off to anyone with BPD who struggles to come out of the darkness!!! :hug:

[prettynpinkk]

Alright :) Simply put, Borderline PD is an emotional dysregulation. Rumor has it, that they are going to change the classification for the DSM-V manual...dropping it from a personality disorder to an emotional dysregulation...aka Mood Disorder.

Borderlines suffer from an extreme fear of abandonment. Here are the 9 criteria...a BPD only needs to meet 5 of the 9 requirements for classification.

{snip}Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. [Not including suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5]
A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.
Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., promiscuous sex, eating disorders, binge eating, substance abuse, reckless driving). [Again, not including suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5]
Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, threats, or self-mutilating behavior such as cutting, interfering with the healing of scars, or picking at oneself.
Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
Chronic feelings of emptiness, worthlessness.
Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).
Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation, delusions or severe dissociative symptoms {end snip}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder

CBT and DBT are the proven therapies out there to help a Borderline overcome themselves. CBT--Cognitive Behavior Therapy aka Rational Therapy and DBT--Dialectical Behavior Therapy.

The focus is on Progression, not Perfection! The idea is to improve self-esteem, find self acceptance and learn to function at a level that fits your personality style! :)

I'm soooo glad you posted here!!! Of all the mental issues out there....Borderline is something I've learned sooooo much about over the past 18 months.

I had a rocky marriage there for a while. When I was trying to figure out why I was going through the things I was going through and went to my state's dv site, they mentioned this. I looked it up, found an on-line support system and have been in that 'group' ever since. I've learned lots about the illness, lots about myself and lots about life in general! That's why I 'know' so much about this disorder.

It's not a character defect in the least. It's just a way of thinking due to life's issues that seems to have overwhelmed many in this world.

I wish you the best of luck! I'm so glad that you are on the path towards wellness! It's a daily struggle and my hat is always off to anyone with BPD who struggles to come out of the darkness!!! :hug:




HI Gladys....

I'm real tired and was about to hit the sack. i came on here real quick to see if you responded and so glad you did. I will try and reply more tomarrow but i need to tell you i have a hard time with big words, i use them sometime but i'm still not up to speed.

I do have a habit sometimes of coming on strong, but it weird cuz most of the time i don't want anyones help and I am reserved. But here's my thing, i think you are extremley intelligent on personality disorder, and i would like to learn from you, as well as you learn from me. I would like to work with you on a daliy basis, does'nt have to be every day but keep in touch 2-3 times a week. LIke i said i don't come on here mush because it's too harmful for me. You say it's a daily stuggle, not to be blunt but do you think it' s because your always talking about it, or stillknew to it? I don't know if you do or not i just wanted to ask. Since doing hypnotherapy i told you i learned that i'm obssessed with my mental health, but in saying that, i would like to know what are my diffulties, find the tools to help it, and merge it into my lifestlye to where it becomes the norm, so i know for a year or two i do need to focus on it alot.

Here is one more thing, i did'nt get much out of your last message because i don't understand the words, can you decipher them. i don't know if you cute andpaste information or type it, i kinda hope you typed it so i would'nt feel like a nag. What drives me crazy is, my two bigggest stuggles are my personality disorder and my A.D.D which result is learning disablities, all the depression, anxiety, have to due with the 2 above so i don't need oto try and fix them.. They are two seprete disorders how do i work with both at the same time?

Talk to you soon

[prettynpinkk]

HI Gladys....

I'm real tired and was about to hit the sack. i came on here real quick to see if you responded and so glad you did. I will try and reply more tomarrow but i need to tell you i have a hard time with big words, i use them sometime but i'm still not up to speed.

I do have a habit sometimes of coming on strong, but it weird cuz most of the time i don't want anyones help and I am reserved. But here's my thing, i think you are extremley intelligent on personality disorder, and i would like to learn from you, as well as you learn from me. I would like to work with you on a daliy basis, does'nt have to be every day but keep in touch 2-3 times a week. LIke i said i don't come on here mush because it's too harmful for me. You say it's a daily stuggle, not to be blunt but do you think it' s because your always talking about it, or stillknew to it? I don't know if you do or not i just wanted to ask. Since doing hypnotherapy i told you i learned that i'm obssessed with my mental health, but in saying that, i would like to know what are my diffulties, find the tools to help it, and merge it into my lifestlye to where it becomes the norm, so i know for a year or two i do need to focus on it alot.

Here is one more thing, i did'nt get much out of your last message because i don't understand the words, can you decipher them. i don't know if you cute andpaste information or type it, i kinda hope you typed it so i would'nt feel like a nag. What drives me crazy is, my two bigggest stuggles are my personality disorder and my A.D.D which result is learning disablities, all the depression, anxiety, have to due with the 2 above so i don't need oto try and fix them.. They are two seprete disorders how do i work with both at the same time?

Talk to you soon



One more thing, you keep saying " borderline" P.D i've never heard of that and do not know if that is what i have .

[GladysD]

I'm sorry, I misread your other post and didn't notice the comma....saw 'personality disorder , borderline'.....

Umm...so which PD do you have? There are several....

[prettynpinkk]

I'm sorry, I misread your other post and didn't notice the comma....saw 'personality disorder , borderline'.....

Umm...so which PD do you have? There are several....

Hey Gladys

I have looked at 1 of 3 psycholigal assessments i have had on the last 6 years. I picked the one i paid for and not the free one, or one protective services paid for one.

Theres alot of information. 21 pagesworth . This has more to do with learning dissablitities than anything. I request from Dr. John for a form of L.D, i have'nt been a member for a month, only 2 weeks so i don't know if he will post it. This is if u could not help me. i was thinking of going over a page every other day with you. I can cap the word or sentences i don't know so you don't have to go over everything. Am i sounding to pushy?I have a habitof that. I have just been real egar to learn about my difficulties for so so long and have been to many different agencies to help me.

I don't know if this is correct but i guess thename of my personality disorder is called " organic P.D".

[GladysD]

Hey Gladys

I have looked at 1 of 3 psycholigal assessments i have had on the last 6 years. I picked the one i paid for and not the free one, or one protective services paid for one.

Theres alot of information. 21 pagesworth . This has more to do with learning dissablitities than anything. I request from Dr. John for a form of L.D, i have'nt been a member for a month, only 2 weeks so i don't know if he will post it. This is if u could not help me. i was thinking of going over a page every other day with you. I can cap the word or sentences i don't know so you don't have to go over everything. Am i sounding to pushy?I have a habitof that. I have just been real egar to learn about my difficulties for so so long and have been to many different agencies to help me.

I don't know if this is correct but i guess thename of my personality disorder is called " organic P.D".

PrettyinPink-
I'm not a professional nor am I a moderator. With that said, I would be happy to try and help you read through your paperwork and try to help you sort through it.
I'm pretty much just an intelligent gal who has a pretty good understanding of fine print and how to find answers. I'm certainly far from perfect, and I can't guarantee all the answers. But I can assure you my best effort and at least a guide in right direction :)

Don't worry about 'sounding pushy', I tend to come off 'too strong' myself sometimes...or so I've been told.. ;) To me it's just guts and determination and lots of spitfire..:D

Hope your weekend was well :hug:

[GladysD]

I don't know if this is correct but i guess thename of my personality disorder is called " organic P.D".

Organic PD was used in the DSM-III. The DSM-IV came out in 1994. {that should show you how old the DSM-III is ;)}The DSM-IV stopped using Organic for a Personality Disorder.

Just keep in mind, that in psychology/psychiatry it takes years for new info to come out and years from there for the whole community to implement. It's slowly changing...not as fast as neuro-medicine and regular medicine ;)

The DSM-V is supposed to be released in 2012. Organic was an old term that lumped lots of things together from schizophrenia to psychosis to dementia to Parkinsonism, and more. Basically, back then, they didn't really understand pathologies, etc as well as now.

There are now subsets to PDs. Organic is used now as a syndrome that defines violent outbursts but no behavioral issues in between.

The 4 major PD's are narcisistic, borderline, paranoid, and anti-social. Of course, within the next few years there will even be changes to all of this.

Of the 4, there are overlaps. No need to worry about the labels as much as just focusing on getting well.

Well, enough of the PD 'lesson' for tonight ;) Hope you had a good weekend! :hug:

[prettynpinkk]

PrettyinPink-
I'm not a professional nor am I a moderator. With that said, I would be happy to try and help you read through your paperwork and try to help you sort through it.
I'm pretty much just an intelligent gal who has a pretty good understanding of fine print and how to find answers. I'm certainly far from perfect, and I can't guarantee all the answers. But I can assure you my best effort and at least a guide in right direction :)

Don't worry about 'sounding pushy', I tend to come off 'too strong' myself sometimes...or so I've been told.. ;) To me it's just guts and determination and lots of spitfire..:D

Hope your weekend was well :hug:


Hey Gladys

Well i am going to see if i can scan the assessment, e-mail to myself and then makea thread on it. I think thats why we have clicked so far is because u are strong and stright to the point, and thats me also. Don't worry about ofending me. I'll sned u another message tomarrow when i know more about this whole scaning this, it would save me so much more time if i did'nt have to print it all. I'm not to quick at this thing so....

Thanks for being supportive it really means a lot. I posted a ad on Adictions, take a look if u have time.

Talk to you soon

P.s Let me properly itroduce myself on saying the name is Cory

[GladysD]

Hey Cory :)

How's school going? Take as much time as you need with the scanning. You are very welcome on the supportive part, part of my nature ;)

Have a great day!

[prettynpinkk]

Hey Cory :)

How's school going? Take as much time as you need with the scanning. You are very welcome on the supportive part, part of my nature ;)

Have a great day!

Gladys

I don't know what to do, i'm in a panic. i am not sayin this for attention nor do i want any type of " it will get better B.S". Don't mean to be rude i'm just feelin really confused right now. i want to die and i have never felt more serious about it, even when i popped 50 sleeping pills 3 years ago. I am tryin to hold on but i can't , i just cant.

I feel hopless. School did not work out, i quit today. And all i can think about is my presious little boy, but that ain't even stoppin me. I know my mom will aloow me to see him, if i canhold downa job plus stay in school for a 2-3 year, but i can't even doin it for my little boy. And thats whats killin me. i am hopless , holess i say.

Doctors told my mom when i was younger that i proberly won't makeit pass grade 7 , with my learning difficuties. I did not know that until i was 23yr, and me tryin school 3-4 times as an adult and not lasting more than a month. Butit's all clear to me now , that maybe thats true. I have senmany teachers get so frusterated with me, because they will try 10 different ways to teach me things buti just won't get. I get real distracted easy, and a project that will take most people 20minutes will take me 2 ina half hours. i can not work in a class becaueit's TOO distracting . I have no credit for high school, and the only reason why i passed grade 7-8 is because i went to a learning disability school where it did not matter how smart u were to pass agrade, it went by ages. If i could only get $8000 or even $4000, than i could go get some intensive neurlogical testing.

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[GladysD]

Gladys

I don't know what to do, i'm in a panic. i am not sayin this for attention nor do i want any type of " it will get better B.S". Don't mean to be rude i'm just feelin really confused right now. i want to die and i have never felt more serious about it, even when i popped 50 sleeping pills 3 years ago. I am tryin to hold on but i can't , i just cant.

I feel hopless. School did not work out, i quit today. And all i can think about is my presious little boy, but that ain't even stoppin me. I know my mom will aloow me to see him, if i canhold downa job plus stay in school for a 2-3 year, but i can't even doin it for my little boy. And thats whats killin me. i am hopless , holess i say.

Doctors told my mom when i was younger that i proberly won't makeit pass grade 7 , with my learning difficuties. I did not know that until i was 23yr, and me tryin school 3-4 times as an adult and not lasting more than a month. Butit's all clear to me now , that maybe thats true. I have senmany teachers get so frusterated with me, because they will try 10 different ways to teach me things buti just won't get. I get real distracted easy, and a project that will take most people 20minutes will take me 2 ina half hours. i can not work in a class becaueit's TOO distracting . I have no credit for high school, and the only reason why i passed grade 7-8 is because i went to a learning disability school where it did not matter how smart u were to pass agrade, it went by ages. If i could only get $8000 or even $4000, than i could go get some intensive neurlogical testing.

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Sweetie....Before the 7th grade, how were you in school? Did this all Start in Junior High?---the distractibility and learning disabilities?

It's the PD :) Really it is....your head starts racing and swimming and you don't even know why? It's part of the anxiety that mixes with your PD

Let me guess....you didn't stop the other stuff?

The mj can really suck the life right out of you, even though you don't think it is. Some people's bodies just cannot handle the stuff. Unfortunately, I think you may be one of them....

:hug: Hang in there.... :hug:

[prettynpinkk]

Sweetie....Before the 7th grade, how were you in school? Did this all Start in Junior High?---the distractibility and learning disabilities?

It's the PD :) Really it is....your head starts racing and swimming and you don't even know why? It's part of the anxiety that mixes with your PD

Let me guess....you didn't stop the other stuff?

The mj can really suck the life right out of you, even though you don't think it is. Some people's bodies just cannot handle the stuff. Unfortunately, I think you may be one of them....

:hug: Hang in there.... :hug:



Hey Gladys

I have been off of mj for 4 days now!! After you told me about the whole 21day thing i asked around to other people also and they all said the same thing. i thougt i would have to wait forever until the cravings died down a lot. I can do 21days on my head. I have'nt even had any cravings, i think #1 because i started excercising 4 days ago also, and #2 is i'm so tired by the timei get homei ain't thinkin about nothing but my pillow.

They disignosed me with bridge gap learning disability at 8. I went to a ld school at 8yr,( grade4) they thought be grade 3 until grade 5 than put me back in a normal school. Obviously that did not work out and inthe middle of grade 6 i went back to a ld school and thought me up to grade 6 until i was 14 and tha they intergrated me in grade 9 half a day in high school and i stayed in the other school. I only lasted a couple months.

I HATE when i get into these episodes os suisidal thoughtss , it really scares me. Because latley even though i am EXTREMLEY scared of pain i just want to slice my wrist deep. That was hard for me to say but it's true.

I am going ot try school again but i am scared until i find out my difficulites than these episodes will continue.

The classis like this. It's a literacy class. Everybody is at different levels. They do their own work. Their is one teacher and she can never helpme because their is 15 kids in the class she , about once every hour- hour in a half can i ask for help. I can get a tutor once twice a week to come to my home, but it's more or less spelling, grammar, and readingi have a problem with, and i can'ttake the text books home under ANY circumstances.

I talked to my mom, sis, and stap mother yesterday and they calmed me down a bit. I will go to them with the same problem once or twice but than afterthat i feel like a nag because they already gave me the advise i need for that problem.
On the 20th i am going to request this site have a form for L.D.

Again thanks for the advise and support

[prettynpinkk]

Hey Gladys

I have been off of mj for 4 days now!! After you told me about the whole 21day thing i asked around to other people also and they all said the same thing. i thougt i would have to wait forever until the cravings died down a lot. I can do 21days on my head. I have'nt even had any cravings, i think #1 because i started excercising 4 days ago also, and #2 is i'm so tired by the timei get homei ain't thinkin about nothing but my pillow.

They disignosed me with bridge gap learning disability at 8. I went to a ld school at 8yr,( grade4) they thought be grade 3 until grade 5 than put me back in a normal school. Obviously that did not work out and inthe middle of grade 6 i went back to a ld school and thought me up to grade 6 until i was 14 and tha they intergrated me in grade 9 half a day in high school and i stayed in the other school. I only lasted a couple months.

I HATE when i get into these episodes os suisidal thoughtss , it really scares me. Because latley even though i am EXTREMLEY scared of pain i just want to slice my wrist deep. That was hard for me to say but it's true.

I am going ot try school again but i am scared until i find out my difficulites than these episodes will continue.

The classis like this. It's a literacy class. Everybody is at different levels. They do their own work. Their is one teacher and she can never helpme because their is 15 kids in the class she , about once every hour- hour in a half can i ask for help. I can get a tutor once twice a week to come to my home, but it's more or less spelling, grammar, and readingi have a problem with, and i can'ttake the text books home under ANY circumstances.

I talked to my mom, sis, and stap mother yesterday and they calmed me down a bit. I will go to them with the same problem once or twice but than afterthat i feel like a nag because they already gave me the advise i need for that problem.
On the 20th i am going to request this site have a form for L.D.

Again thanks for the advise

and the support

[GladysD]

Cory-

The desire to cut is as much a coping mechanism as wanting to drink or 'smoke.' It's a method of bringing all that inner pain that you feel to a physical state, since your emotions are too overwhelming to put to words. Have you considered obtaining a therapist to help you learn to manage these feelings? Even maybe a LICSW (social worker) to help guide you and help you learn better coping skills? Maybe finding someone who specializes in DBT?


You've got these intense emotions combined with learning disabilities that stunt your self-esteem....a double-whammy, so to speak :hug: It ain't easy, I certainly give you that.

Change doesn't happen overnight, but you are certainly on your way! :) I'm proud of you with the mj!!! Just come here, if you are frustrated!! Give me time to respond...but I will respond!! ;)

Reading, Spelling, and grammer are you weak-points?

http://www.ncld.org/content/view/382/339/

Here is a link to the National Center for Learning Disabilities. You may be able to find some useful resources and literature in there to help you learn. It's a lifelong struggle and being proactive is the best approach. You seem eager to learn, so this is a start in the right direction.

[prettynpinkk]

Cory-

The desire to cut is as much a coping mechanism as wanting to drink or 'smoke.' It's a method of bringing all that inner pain that you feel to a physical state, since your emotions are too overwhelming to put to words. Have you considered obtaining a therapist to help you learn to manage these feelings? Even maybe a LICSW (social worker) to help guide you and help you learn better coping skills? Maybe finding someone who specializes in DBT?


You've got these intense emotions combined with learning disabilities that stunt your self-esteem....a double-whammy, so to speak :hug: It ain't easy, I certainly give you that.

Change doesn't happen overnight, but you are certainly on your way! :) I'm proud of you with the mj!!! Just come here, if you are frustrated!! Give me time to respond...but I will respond!! ;)

Reading, Spelling, and grammer are you weak-points?

http://www.ncld.org/content/view/382/339/

Here is a link to the National Center for Learning Disabilities. You may be able to find some useful resources and literature in there to help you learn. It's a lifelong struggle and being proactive is the best approach. You seem eager to learn, so this is a start in the right direction.



Hey Gladys

Sorry it took so long for me to return themessage, i've been feeling under the weather the last couple days.

As for the cutting, it's not more or less cutting, and i don't look at it as diresting the emtion to psyical pain. I see it as, racing thoughts are drivingme crazy and i want to direct it on something that will turn off the racing thoughts. I have felts like that about 5-6 times now, and what is weird is that i don't want to killl myself half of those times. I don't want to cut i want to stab it threw my hand. Weird huh? I am the biggest baby for pain and don't know why i feel that way.

I will be seeing a socail worker soon, hypno is starting to work . I just feel into a depression the last 4 days in bed and it's taking me a second to get out of it.

I'm still really warn out, so i willl keep it touch. any questions you have to ask , don't hesutate to ask.:hug:

[Vowel Lady]

You seem to be posting more and more. I believe you also mentioned an upcoming appointment with either a social worker or another mental health professional. Is there any way that you could get your appointment earlier? Don't forget that you can and should go to the hospital if your symptoms worsen or if you feel like cutting yourself or taking an illegal substance. There are medications you can take to help with your anxiety. I do hope that you are able to get the help you need.