If you Want to put things right...

[reverett123]

...and possibly get our archive back, you might want to visit
http://www.wired.com/support/feedback.html
and suggest to the editor that it might be worth having one of their writers drop in here. I just did and a few more might make them take a look. :mad:

[paula_w]

Well now you have hit a nerve that is going to have to be a group decision. My first kneejerk reaction is you just stepped on a collective big toe. A proposal would be necessary - can't just give them free reign to be aliases. Oh stuffing gag in mouth.

Doc j would be needed... may not want to...but I don't want to hurt John Lester..we would need much more information. Lots of trust you are calling for there. I'm tired just thinking about it.

paula

[dorry]

Well now you have hit a nerve that is going to have to be a group decision

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7923/lolux7.gif

oh gawd no - not THAT!

[reverett123]

...as paula pointed out, is indeed needed.

Unforunately, JL has it all and isn't shareing.

As for the collective big toe, an individual has the right to seek justice so long as he does not purport to be acting in an official capacity.

"Go not gently into that good night...."

[ConsiderThis]

...and possibly get our archive back, you might want to visit
http://www.wired.com/support/feedback.html
and suggest to the editor that it might be worth having one of their writers drop in here. I just did and a few more might make them take a look. :mad:

Hi,
I went to the link and there was a mail form... but I had no idea what Wired.com is or does...

So I came here to ask you. What would you think they would do?

Then I wanted to mention that yesterday I put a question in the General Forum hoping to get some information I had originally been given on BT, but then my computer broke and I didn't have the saved file anymore.

Well, a very helpful person googled it with + braintalk and got the cached page...

So if that was true, and it was, then everyone could get the pages of information they want from their special forums in the same way....

Think?

[ConsiderThis]

sorry about the duplication. it won't let me delete...

[ZombieSlayer]

The biggest obstacle to block anyone from getting a copy of the database is the personal (registration email and password) and private (pms) information stored in the database that shouldn't be shared.

Not that I have anything in that database that I wouldn't share with everyone (except perhaps my password :p )...but I will put up one hell of a fight before anybody gets a copy of the full database.

I will however do what I can to get the threads and posts made available should BrainTalk never come back, even if I have to goto Boston to get it. There is extremely valuable information in those posts.

The information can be seperate (private and posts) but can be a bit tricky to do. It all depends on 2 main factors; #1 the condition of database (ie is it corrupted), and #2 the size of certain tables within the database.

[paula_w]

I am trying to understand the whole picture. John is not responding to anyone right? Are you saying that he is ignoring repeated requests for archived information? We do not know the severity of the crash for sure and don't feel comfortable with his explanation and are definitely surprised and angered at his lack of communication. Some of you are questioning where donations went.

Reverett wants to publicize this in an effort to get the material. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Asking a couple of questions: Just how hard has anyone tried to get any information? What other means of communicatiing with John can we try?

Reverett: what do you mean when you say put a writer on it? What would be the purpose?

thanks,
paula

ps dorry keep crackin those jokes - i love humor - it's the only way to go thru life.

[Chemar]

I will however do what I can to get the threads and posts made available should BrainTalk never come back, even if I have to goto Boston to get it. There is extremely valuable information in those posts.



thanks for saying that ZS!

I used to be able to send many people links to posts there that were literal lifesavers for them, as well as essential info in helping them or their kids with their illness..........it is really serious not to be able to access that info!

[ConsiderThis]

Check out the gluten forum, jcc has made a dynamite site with the information. But I don't know if she got it all somehow by means of cached pages, or if she had a duplicate of everything on her computer.

But check out her work, it is sooooo beautiful.

:)

[jccgf]

I actually created The Gluten File first in a word document before I ever added it out as posts in a thread. So, I had most of it from the original creation (which I did myself). After the first crash when we lost everything, I had to reload it all out there a second time, and try to recapture some of what we had added along the way (since its original creation, I have been continually adding to it as I, and others, find interesting or new information).

So, when we crashed again, and after a suggestion by a fellow forum member, I decided to reload it out as a personal webpage...so hopefully I won't have to keep going through this recreation process over and over. This is the fourth generation of it :eek: (or should I say regeneration).

Sadly, we lost all of the great dialogue and testimonials trailing each informational thread. However, a lot can be found by googling a few well chosen key words and then checking the cached copy.

Cara

[ConsiderThis]

I actually created The Gluten File first in a word document before I ever added it out as posts in a thread. So, I had most of it from the original creation (which I myself did). After the first crash when we lost everything, I had to reload it all out there a second time. So, when we crashed again, I decided to reload it to a personal webpage.

Cara
Well, it's totally brilliant!!!!!!!

Wow!!!!!!!!!

[jccgf]

Thanks ;) .

Cara

[ConsiderThis]

Hi Cara,
Are you from Wisconsin?

or have I confused you with someone else?????

[aklap]

But I don't know if she got it all somehow by means of cached pages, or if she had a duplicate of everything on her computer.
After the last crash (Aril 2005), we in the CD/GS forum were extremely nervous. There were many people that put many hours of work into researching, posting & organizing - having it disappear again did not appeal to us. As Cara said, she had her original info, plus I made backups of our most important collection [aka The Gluten File]. Between what Cara had and what I had [info that Cara didn't have], she was able to reconstruct a good chunk it. This is what you see now in The Gluten File

We maybe trying to reconstruct some our recipes from Google caches, but this is very labor intensive and time consuming.

I would recommend to others that have posted valuable knowledge out here: Keep your own backups! The number of hours of work that have been lost [what, 3 times now in our case??], is staggering. We have no control over this data once we put it out here in cyberspace. This lack of control, does not sit well with me. There's a saying in the computer biz...it's not a matter of IF your hardware is going to fail...it's a matter of WHEN. We pound this into our customer's head's all the time.

So...Back up, Back up, Back up!!

[jccgf]

Hi Cara,
Are you from Wisconsin?

or have I confused you with someone else?????

yes, I am from WI.

[stevem53]

I am trying to understand the whole picture. John is not responding to anyone right? Are you saying that he is ignoring repeated requests for archived information? We do not know the severity of the crash for sure and don't feel comfortable with his explanation and are definitely surprised and angered at his lack of communication. Some of you are questioning where donations went.

Reverett wants to publicize this in an effort to get the material. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Asking a couple of questions: Just how hard has anyone tried to get any information? What other means of communicatiing with John can we try?

Reverett: what do you mean when you say put a writer on it? What would be the purpose?

thanks,
paula

ps dorry keep crackin those jokes - i love humor - it's the only way to go thru life.


I am going to guess Paula that what Rick means by putting a writer on this is to publisize the BT crash and the mystery that surrounds it and the lack of comunication from JL..That would probably force a response/explanation from him

[reverett123]

...you know me too well! That's exactly what I want, JL would have contacted us by now if he cared. HE DOES NOT CARE and we are in the position of a spurned child. Some will react with bewilderment, some with anger, and some will make excuses for him.

The facts are that he is seen regularly on websites where he wants to be. Time constraints? Do you think DocJohn has a lesser burden than JL? How much time has DJ given to this community of strangers? Choose whatever reaction you wish but, for goodness sake, forego the excuses. It's so undignified.

I do hope to see this story written. But I would prefer that it end with the wayward pop showing up at the hospital to donate the kidney with the final scene being a handshake of forgiveness and farewell.