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Jaye
09-17-2006, 01:47 PM
I originally posted this in Forum Feedback because the subject came up there. I was asked to re-post it here. Please understand the possibility of new medicaitons from the clinical studies I found is sheer speculation on my part, and anyone who thinks this applies to them should ask a neurologist. Or take a neurologist some printout and ask what it means.

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Hi Ellie,

I just thought of something you might want to ask your doc about. You mentioned seizures connected with the withdrawal of caffeine. Surprisingly, researchers have found that people who drink coffee are somewhat less likely to develop Parkinson's Disease (PD), and that caffeine works on one kind of "A" receptor cells in the brain. They set about finding a drug for PD that would work on similar receptor cells, and sure enough, if you block the A2A receptors (name of the brain chemical or neurotransmitter is adenisone), the overall level of dopamine (which we lack) in the brain goes up. There's an experimental drug called istradefylline (or KW-6002 as its experimental name) which is an A2A receptor antagonist (blocker, sort of). I have been on istradefylline for about 2 years as a participanat in the clinical studies, and at least in my case, it has a moderately beneficial effect on my ability to move. I was thinking your doc might have a clue as to whether something like this would help you, and if not, maybe ask another neurologist.

Hmmm... I just searched PubMed ( www.pubmed.org ) on "A2A receptor antagonist and seizure" (without the quotes) and found several articles showing that they're trying out this type of drug on rats at NIH (National Institutes of Health). Also just googling on the same phrase yields some very interesting results.

Hope this is of interest.

Jaye
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You can learn to use the public medical library (http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/) with simple tutorials they have there for free. You can look up words in a medical dictionary at http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/mplusdictionary.html.
Don't be medically in the dark. Learn and be in charge of your life (no one else is that into it, LOL).

Jaye




ConsiderThis
09-17-2006, 02:23 PM
Oh! What a brilliant post!

Thank you for making this post.

So many of us are bombarded with how we'd feel better if only we gave up coffee... Thank you so much!!!!!! (for taking away the guilt!)

(((((((Jaye))))))))

Also, I love the info about PubMed... I didn't know that. that's Useful!

dorry
09-17-2006, 02:27 PM
I know coffee helps automomic dysfunction like orthostatic hypertension.

headache cure

Interesting about adenisone. I recently had a nuclear stress test and thought my chest was going to crush from the rush of that stuff. I guess my black coffee habit keeps natural levels of it in check.

Jaye
09-18-2006, 09:39 AM
Do they inject adenisone for a stress test, or what do you mean?

Jaye

dorry
09-18-2006, 08:22 PM
yes jaye, adenisone. It was AWFUL! I just got detailed billing for the procedure and it said per 30mg, so I assume that's what they pumped in my vein. I could actually feel the severe crushing chest pain in waves like clockwork. it must have been when it cycled back to my heart each time.

I meant to say orthostatic hypotension in my previous post, not hyper.

ps- I had a nuclear stress test where they used adenisone to speed up my heart, because I can't walk on the treadmill at all.

mrsD
09-18-2006, 08:44 PM
of the system posted by Jaye...

http://www.adenrx.com/about-adenosine.html

receptor stuff is hard to imagine, so a graphic really helps.

and here is the status of the drug pipeline:
http://www.adenrx.com/pipe.html

Idealist
09-19-2006, 05:30 PM
I know that caffeine helps mitigate pain. A lot of OTK painkillers have caffeine added to them, and it's supposed to be especially effective against headaches.

The funny thing is that I seem to be almost immune to the effects of caffeine. I can drink a whole pot of coffee and not even feel it, then lay down and take a nap. I must just be weird.

Curious
09-19-2006, 06:04 PM
like my kids go bonkers and bounce off walls when given benadryl. others fall asleep.

hiya idealist. :D

dorry
09-19-2006, 07:54 PM
i'm like that too idealist. I nuke my black coffee because I like it super hot....I can finish a cup and the cup is still smoking from the heat and roll over and go to sleep.

I just thought of another thing that responds to caffiene. My son's friend used to ride the school bus to our house most afternoons and one day he forgot his ritalin. This kid was the kind that would take a dirt bike "around the block - I promise" and an hour later he'd show up with the fenders all beat to hell and the mirrors hanging.

So one day when he admitted he forgot his ritalin, we were going to try to break in a window in his house to get his script... he said no need = coffee would give him the same reaction.. and it did!

Spirit Moves
09-20-2006, 11:01 PM
:) I'm new here, hi!

I've been saying that coffee has been helping me for a while now and my friends, I believe, think I'm a little goofy...:rolleyes: ...thanks so much for posting this!

mrsD
09-21-2006, 04:37 PM
coffee often have ADD/ADHD traits. It can be mild enough to not be
noticable, but coffee has been used for a LONG TIME for ADD folks and children.

Children often have paradoxical reactions to drugs, as their brains have not
finished growing. Sedated by decongestants and stimulated by antihistamines
is fairly common. Most grow out of it.

When I worked midnights I used to get a few calls then, from adults who did not outgrow the effects of Benadryl. But those calls were not common.

clouds z
09-22-2006, 08:27 PM
people that drink coffee commit suicide less-its good for depression
id only drink yuban or starbucks type aribica type - look that word up on wikipedia

i think coffee can cause a heart attack or prevent one -it all depends

clouds z
09-22-2006, 08:29 PM
i dont like starbucks places much
i mean the bean they use is high grade

Jaye
09-22-2006, 10:51 PM
I found another one of those wonderful articles from the American Academy of Family Physicians Journal. this one on "Ordering and Interpreting the Exercise Stress Test" written for the family doctor by experts in the field. There are charts and graphs galore, and plenty of things to ask doc about, including the role of adenisone in the testing. Find the article at http://www.aafp.org/afp/990115ap/401.html.

I'm glad to be able to contribute and share in this thread, as you who responded have done so well and so kindly.

[Optional personal note: ...and I'm glad I didn't have the people blocked who had suggested that might be a solution for me to avoid silliness. I think this kind of congenial sharing works just fine. JMHO.]

Jaye