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Unread 03-01-2012, 02:54 PM   #1
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I am currently suffering from PCS from sustaining two concussions las year. My doctor said that it would be a good idea to start getting my C1 and C2 aligned in my neck. But my question is, can't the motion of getting your neck cracked by a chiropractor give you a concussion?
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The NUCCA adjusting is very different from the usualy chiro adjustments.

The are recent posts about it on our forum for TBI & PCS.
Traumatic Brain Injury and Post Concussion Syndrome
For traumatic brain injury (TBI) and post concussion syndrome (PCS).
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forum92.html
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Please proceed with caution! I've known, and heard of lots of people who have had strokes when getting their necks adjusted.

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The C1 C2 adjusting is totally different from the usual chiro adjustments.

I went to my chiro for many years and many adjustments , he was very precise and gentle. He also had many patients and none that I talked with had any thing like a stroke happen.

I sometimes think that stroke talk is a old wives tale that get passed around.

I'm sure there are good & poor chiropractors, same as with doctors, mechanics, plumbers, any service provider..
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I don't think it's an old wives tale. It has happened but not that often I suspect. But it has happened. Even the chiropractor I saw said the same thing.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/chi...DSECTION=risks

The type of adjustment you post about is more than likely totally different. Not questioning that as I do not know. But a person has to be very careful as far as neck adjustments. I never had a neck adjustment for that reason when I did see a decent chiropractor. I didn't want anybody fooling with my neck. I do not see a chiropractor at all nowadays.
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I probably used the wrong term, .
But I do think the risk of stroke is very very low.
Nucca is totally different from the usual chiro adjusting.

But as always seek out an expert in any therapy or treatment you try.

Some info about Nucca / also called Upper Cervical adjustment (atlas/axis, c1, c2)
[POSTURE IS A WINDOW INTO A PERSON'S HEALTH
Upper Cervical misalignment = Poor Posture = Poor Health

The following Signs and Symptoms may indicate Upper Cervical (c0-c1-c2) Injury]
http://www.upcspine.com/self.htm
http://www.upcspine.com/anatomy2.htm

here's one vid but many more can be found-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TPEX...hannel&list=UL
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I probably used the wrong term, .
But I do think the risk of stroke is very very low.
Nucca is totally different from the usual chiro adjusting.

But as always seek out an expert in any therapy or treatment you try.

Some info about Nucca / also called Upper Cervical adjustment (atlas/axis, c1, c2)
[POSTURE IS A WINDOW INTO A PERSON'S HEALTH
Upper Cervical misalignment = Poor Posture = Poor Health

The following Signs and Symptoms may indicate Upper Cervical (c0-c1-c2) Injury]
http://www.upcspine.com/self.htm
http://www.upcspine.com/anatomy2.htm

here's one vid but many more can be found-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TPEX...hannel&list=UL
I watched the video and I can see that when he does the neck part it isn't like sudden or anything. I won't have it done though.

And as far as one foot being a little longer we learned from a chiropractor how to fix that and it has worked every time. If it's done in the chiropractors office that's when they block you and it is slow but sure and one foot is no longer shorter than the other. It can be like an inch or far less that it's shorter. We learned to do it at home with thicker books put in the correct place depending on which leg is a bit shorter. We learned how to check that before to see if indeed the leg was a bit shorter. It works every time.

We don't have to do it often but when we know it's "out" and then check it and do the book blocking. I especially go back in fast.

A CMTer may have more trouble with that sort of thing than the general population. Just the way it is for some of us.

By the way a person can have a stroke if they are at the hairdressers and have your hair washed when you are laying back with your neck over the sink. I do my own and always have long before I learned that.
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I sometimes think that stroke talk is a old wives tale that get passed around.
I'd never heard of it until now so I googled: chiropractic stroke

There's a LOT there, including two awareness groups, several pages of scholarly studies, a lawfirm that specializes specifically in chiropractic stroke cases, videos, and articles by/from some very reputable sources, all of which suggest to me that the risk is very real, and more than very very low.

From what I did read briefly, it's not any one or group of particular manipulations, or fast vs. slow. It can happen a lot of ways, including Upper Cervical Adjustment. BTW - NUUCA is not a type or technique of adjustment - it is an association of chiropractors.
http://www.nucca.org/

Perhaps the most poignant item I read was this:
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I have been doing a vascular surgery rotation for the past month, which is part of my postgraduate medical education. During my chiropractic training, when the subject of manipulation-induced stroke was brought up, we were reassured that "millions of chiropractic adjustments are made each year and only a few incidents of stroke have been reported following neck manipulation." I recently found that two of the patients on my vascular service that suffered a cerebrovascular accident (stroke) had undergone neck manipulation by a chiropractor, one the day that symptoms had begun and the other four days afterward. If indeed the incidence of stroke is rare, one M.D. would see a case of manipulation-induced CVA about every 10 years. But I believe I have seen two in the past month! I therefore urge my medical colleagues to question their patients regarding recent visits to a chiropractor/neck manipulation when confronted with patients that present with the neurologic symptoms of stroke. I also urge potential chiropractic patients to not allow their necks to be manipulated in any way. The risk-to-benefit ratio is much too high to warrant such a procedure.
—Rob Alexander, M.D.
http://www.quackwatch.com/01Quackery...irostroke.html
I would encourage anyone to google: chiropractic stroke, read what's there, and come to their own conclusions.

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I do always suggest seeking out an expert.
Self research is a plus for anyone wanting to try anything different from the norm.

Correct, NUCCA is the association of chiropractors == National Upper Cervical Chiropractic Association
where you can learn more about it and find a DC
http://www.nucca.org/find_doctor.php

It's simpler to call it NUCCA in general so anyone can easily do a search to find more info, and I don't have to type out upper cervical adjustment every time.
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