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Unread 11-16-2012, 11:19 AM   #41
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still no sleep, gonna try to set up an appointment with a gp to get an established dr, ill give a run down how it goes
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Unread 11-17-2012, 04:26 AM   #42
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Abel, see my post about Ambien in the forum about Sleep Apnea and Sleep Disorders, about half way down the page "Ambien Tips & Tricks". Main point is that the stomach should be empty when you take it, because food / sugar / alcohol will make Ambien absorb too slowly to work. Might be the same for other meds like your Lunesta.

Try eating nothing for 4-6 hours before bedtime. I only allow myself to sip a little milk so my tummy doesn't gnaw at me. It sucks having to go to bed hungry, but getting to sleep is such a relief! If my tummy is totally empty, I'm conked out in 15 mins. If I have eaten more than a couple bites of anything, it can take an hour or more and have to take another one.

I hope this trick works for you. I have the same awful insomnia problem that I rarely feel sleepy (but tired a lot of the time) and nothing works for me. Ambien was a godsend 15 years ago and still is to this day for me. Do check out that post I mentioned in the other forum so you know how to keep from developing too much tolerance, too.
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Unread 11-19-2012, 07:26 PM   #43
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Dr. Polanko is a primary care doctor. He can refer you to the right speicalist, or may be able to help you himself as he did for me. ginnie
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Hi Abel,

I had some periods of insomnia due to meds, mainly steriod shots. Sorry do not have much more to recommend, but, one day at my neuro's there was a college football player, huge guy, PCS.

His wife was saying that he never really slept, and had stayed awake for days like you. Just wanted to let you know that you are not alone.
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Unread 11-19-2012, 10:48 PM   #46
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Im a big guy myself, I wonder if its a coincidence?

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I had some periods of insomnia due to meds, mainly steriod shots. Sorry do not have much more to recommend, but, one day at my neuro's there was a college football player, huge guy, PCS.

His wife was saying that he never really slept, and had stayed awake for days like you. Just wanted to let you know that you are not alone.
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Unread 11-20-2012, 12:24 AM   #47
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Abel,

There is a new magnesium supplement called Magtein. It is supposed to be more available to the brain. The brain needs magnesium to sleep correctly. I have some on order from Amazon. The anecdotal reviews mention it being a big help for sleep issues.

I will be reporting here and on Amazon when I have tried it.
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59 years old, retired due to disability, married 34 years, father of three, grandfather of four, Suffered a serious concussion at 10 years old (1965) stopped most driving after concussion at 46 years old (2001), Post Concussion Syndrome/Multiple Concussion/Impact Syndrome with PTSD, immediate/short term visual and auditory memory problems, slowed processing speed, visual/auditory processing difficulties, insomnia, absence seizures, OCD, 14 concussions since first concussion at 8 years old, Taking paroxetine for 14 years and gabapentin for 12 years. Added L-Tryptophan and stopped paroxetine after 3 months of tapering. I currently take 500 mgs of L-Tryptophan AM, 500 mgs noon, and 500 mgs PM.


As of Nov 15th, Due to high stress issues resulting in PTSD, docs put me on 3 meds. Clonazepam but only for 30 days ) .125 mgs twice daily (Doc presc. .25 mgs 2x daily but half a tablet is good) , citalopram (Celexa), an SSRI , and olanzapine (Zyprexa), an atypical anti-psychotic that usually causes weight gain before bed. I lost over 30 pounds since mid July. It just stopped the weight loss. Took me off the gabapentin. I am feeling better than I have in years.

This great feeling only lasted a month. Back to the same old PCS doldrums.

May 2014, I am off the olanzapine due to a 6 fold price increase. Back on 600 mgs of gabapentin before bed.

I am also taking L-Theanine to help with GABA regulation


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Thanks mark, I tried 10mg of ambien last night, didn't make me drowsy at all even after taking it on an empty stomach, I need to find something that works pronto
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I could be wrong, but I don't think docs. are going to prescribe any of the kinds of drugs that are really dangerous. Whom ever you decide to see, document all that is happened to you, and all the medications you have tried. Things like seconal, numbutal, that kind of thing, you would really have to find a specialist, and no doubt do the sleep study. I wish you all the best. ginnie
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Unread 11-20-2012, 11:30 AM   #50
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I just looked up those 2 meds, holy jeebus those are kind of frightening I dunno if id wanna try them, but alas I do need to find something

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