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Unread 11-26-2012, 04:52 PM   #151
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Keep in mind that many gluten free baking powders and breads, have a HIGHER glycemic index than other products. They often have potato flour, and tapioca flour in them. People who can't tolerate potatoes would have problems with that.

I found brown rice pasta, however, to be lower in glycemic load and therefore easier for diabetic patients. The brand is Tinkyada.

It is much easier to find gluten free things even in a grocery store today. There is gluten free Bisquick, and Chex cereals are gluten free (corn and rice ones).

Tinkyada is in some local stores now too. On line Amazon has it but only in bulk orders of 12. I found it very very good--the best of all the gluten free pasta products, in fact.

I did gluten free for 3 yrs. It did not change my PN at all.
I still avoid it to some extent, just in case. But I do have some wheat, but avoid high gluten things like bagels, etc. I do oatmeal, cherrios, and Crispix cereals, but not every day.
I did it mostly for GI problems. Since then I discovered fructose was the culprit, and also that the Kefir, fixed my dysbiosis which was long standing from previous years of antibiotics. Over a decade ago I used to get 4 bronchitis infections a year, but that stopped when I improved my lungs with Omega-3's. And now the Vit D daily, has blocked colds even for us! I've had one course of Zithromax in the past decade compared to previous years when I worked with the public who were always sick with something!

Amazon has a gluten free section now:
http://www.amazon.com/Gluten-Free-Fo...ode=2204829011

Gluten free can be pricey. But if you start with lean meats, fruits, and veggies...you can have nice meals, without much increased costs.
Brown rice is easier on your blood sugar than white rices. I have to avoid potatoes however... but if you find they are causing burning then don't use them. I tend to use yams and sweet potatoes alot here instead. There are corn tortillas that you can make roll up sandwiches with etc.
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Yes, low and good carbs are important. Going gluten free can lead to eating the wrong carbs if you do not learn all about it. Nutrition is always most important. I don't eat many carbs.

Potatoes and rice make the blood sugar go up. I eat no rice and VERY little potato. A few fries once a week. I just really need a few fries. Five to eight.

Most grocery stores are full of great gfree foods. But the meat, veggies and fruit are what I eat most.
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Keep in mind that many gluten free baking powders and breads, have a HIGHER glycemic index than other products. They often have potato flour, and tapioca flour in them. People who can't tolerate potatoes would have problems with that.

I found brown rice pasta, however, to be lower in glycemic load and therefore easier for diabetic patients. The brand is Tinkyada.

It is much easier to find gluten free things even in a grocery store today. There is gluten free Bisquick, and Chex cereals are gluten free (corn and rice ones).

Tinkyada is in some local stores now too. On line Amazon has it but only in bulk orders of 12. I found it very very good--the best of all the gluten free pasta products, in fact.

I did gluten free for 3 yrs. It did not change my PN at all.
I still avoid it to some extent, just in case. But I do have some wheat, but avoid high gluten things like bagels, etc. I do oatmeal, cherrios, and Crispix cereals, but not every day.
I did it mostly for GI problems. Since then I discovered fructose was the culprit, and also that the Kefir, fixed my dysbiosis which was long standing from previous years of antibiotics. Over a decade ago I used to get 4 bronchitis infections a year, but that stopped when I improved my lungs with Omega-3's. And now the Vit D daily, has blocked colds even for us! I've had one course of Zithromax in the past decade compared to previous years when I worked with the public who were always sick with something!

Amazon has a gluten free section now:
http://www.amazon.com/Gluten-Free-Fo...ode=2204829011

Gluten free can be pricey. But if you start with lean meats, fruits, and veggies...you can have nice meals, without much increased costs.
Brown rice is easier on your blood sugar than white rices. I have to avoid potatoes however... but if you find they are causing burning then don't use them. I tend to use yams and sweet potatoes alot here instead. There are corn tortillas that you can make roll up sandwiches with etc.
Very good point; just avoiding gluten isn't enough; carefully planning diet is important; Davis' book points out that you can just shop in the gluten-free section of a store, and still wind up fat and diabetic. Tons of potato, tapioca, and other starches, as well as fructose, are still a problem.

I don't know how many people have PN because of gluten; but I do believe it does harm in general, and just makes it harder for healing, in general.

Yes, Tinkyada is the best I've found, and I can buy it in Publix here, or actually cheaper in a local health food store. Vitacost.com probably has the best price.
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I have publix in my area also. Tinkyada they never heard of. What section would it be in? Amazon and health food stores are out for me due to public assistance. They don't accept aid cards. I like the chex, but can't eat it every day. Oatmeal is fine. The meat for the most part isn't a big part of my diet due to costs. Veggies and fruit I buy in season. If cost is not a concern, I can see where this diet with gluton free, wheat free, dairy free may work. But it doesn't work with two eating on 150 per month. Taco, wraps made with chicken I cook, with veggies on top is more what I can afford. Fish is only purchased in season as well. I use milk on cereal, etc. and definately use greek yogurt. Even soups have gluton in them, in fact most do. Switching over to do this, doesn't seems like it is possible. ginnie
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Well all I have to say is that most of us eat terribly. I basically started over a few years ago eliminating all white stuff. Bread, potatos, salt, sugar, rice, pasta. I use whole wheat forms but you tend to eat less when you do so thats good. I cheat alot but generally my meals are stir fried vegetables with a little meat, mostly chicken. I usually have no less than 4 or 5 different vegetables in the mix, and often add cashews. I used to be a meat and potato's man and had to have several slices of Italian bread with a meal. white pasta a couple times a week. I was always bloated and had acid reflex, and was told I was pre diabetic.(no More) So when I grocery shop now, I only put things in the cart that have nutrient value. No carb fillers. I have been taking Hyoluronic acid, and Sam e for over a year as well as Krill oil, vit D B12 Lipoic acid and some other supplements. I am also on Warifin but I eat all the green leafy veggies anyway and my levels are still normal. So does any of this mean anything. I believe so. I have firbromyalgia and neuropathy but pain has been minimal and I use tylonal and tramidol in half doses occassionally. Three years ago I was told I needed to be on 800mg of Iviprophen and Lyrica. I walked out of that doctors office never to return. If you are following the intergrative nerve block thread. I am still doing that and will keep updating. However regardless of weather you have a certain condition or not, I believe it is important try to only put good stuff in the body. It means doing your own cooking and not using any canned or bottled processed stuff. Most folks just can't do it. It can get addicting though and the benefits are great. sorry for the rant.
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On eating right - make no mistake about it, eating the right things helps us heal and feel better in general. However I feel that the real theme here is "Moderation" meaning that eating certain things in moderation is most likely the right way to go.

I was terrified to eat things with B6 in them, or even drink a glass of tap water due to the fluoride content -but I know now these are things that have to be controlled by us through moderation. Meaning, sure, I drink mostly pure bottled water now, but that doesn't mean I can't drink a glass of tap water from time to time, or eat something that has b6 in them. It's true we have to be vigilant about what we eat, but not to the point of stressing ourselves out. I even have a few beers on the weekend sometimes, too. Once again, the key here is moderation - at least for me it is.

The problem is figuring out what is right to eat, since everyone's body is different.

For example, I'm quite sure my PN was indeed caused by Ciprofloxcacin, NOT gluten - but I will eat gluten only in stern moderation and certainly avoid things I know that would be potentially irritable to my PN.

Since the cause of PN is different for each one of us, it's difficult to say what is the best dietary plan, but some basics, such as avoiding "excess" amounts of anything potentially harmful seems wise these days.

Lastly, if we overstress on dietary choices too much we become a bit crazed (I felt that way) and that's not a good thing either. We can't go around living in the world terrified to eat every little thing we did in the past. All we can do is try to make a comfortable and wise dietary lifestyle that fits our own particular health needs.
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I have publix in my area also. Tinkyada they never heard of. What section would it be in? Amazon and health food stores are out for me due to public assistance. They don't accept aid cards. I like the chex, but can't eat it every day. Oatmeal is fine. The meat for the most part isn't a big part of my diet due to costs. Veggies and fruit I buy in season. If cost is not a concern, I can see where this diet with gluton free, wheat free, dairy free may work. But it doesn't work with two eating on 150 per month. Taco, wraps made with chicken I cook, with veggies on top is more what I can afford. Fish is only purchased in season as well. I use milk on cereal, etc. and definately use greek yogurt. Even soups have gluton in them, in fact most do. Switching over to do this, doesn't seems like it is possible. ginnie
Hi, Ginnie.
My local Publix has it in the health food section, but it's expensive. Can you purchase online? Vitacost is excellent, and if you can use it, send me an email, and I can get you a $10 off coupon.
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Well all I have to say is that most of us eat terribly. I basically started over a few years ago eliminating all white stuff. Bread, potatos, salt, sugar, rice, pasta. I use whole wheat forms but you tend to eat less when you do so thats good. I cheat alot but generally my meals are stir fried vegetables with a little meat, mostly chicken. I usually have no less than 4 or 5 different vegetables in the mix, and often add cashews. I used to be a meat and potato's man and had to have several slices of Italian bread with a meal. white pasta a couple times a week. I was always bloated and had acid reflex, and was told I was pre diabetic.(no More) So when I grocery shop now, I only put things in the cart that have nutrient value. No carb fillers. I have been taking Hyoluronic acid, and Sam e for over a year as well as Krill oil, vit D B12 Lipoic acid and some other supplements. I am also on Warifin but I eat all the green leafy veggies anyway and my levels are still normal. So does any of this mean anything. I believe so. I have firbromyalgia and neuropathy but pain has been minimal and I use tylonal and tramidol in half doses occassionally. Three years ago I was told I needed to be on 800mg of Iviprophen and Lyrica. I walked out of that doctors office never to return. If you are following the intergrative nerve block thread. I am still doing that and will keep updating. However regardless of weather you have a certain condition or not, I believe it is important try to only put good stuff in the body. It means doing your own cooking and not using any canned or bottled processed stuff. Most folks just can't do it. It can get addicting though and the benefits are great. sorry for the rant.
Stillfighting, what you say is great; everyone should go in that direction. But be aware that whole wheat is still wheat, and has many of the ill effects of white wheat. Just as filtered cigarettes are still cigarettes. As Mrs. D said, Tinkyada brown rice pasta is terrific! And I love Udi's millet/chia bread.
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It IS difficult at first. We did it over a decade ago. Changing a child's habits, (whose ADHD was severe), and husband in addition to myself...it was a challenge. Back then there were the dreaded transfats to watch out for as well. I was flamed alot back then online for suggesting eliminating them from your diet, before the gov't mandated the new labeling. People just did not believe how toxic they were to the body.

Now of course, that concept has been finally conquered. But the time it took! It is a lesson to demonstrate why medical things get so stuck as well.

I'll repeat my dutch electric tabletop oven suggestions I made earlier. I just saw the new Ninja commerical for their "cooker"...which is just a fancy version of the same cooker my family has used for over 50 yrs. In fact my grandmother gave me one for my wedding present..back in 1968. She made wonderful Sunday dinners for us all in her old one.

This type of cooker is so versatile, and easy to do and make homemade meals quickly with little investment. It really helped with my work schedule, and hubby learned how to do it easily.
I am partial to turkey parts, but you can make just about any meal in it. Just learn how veggies cook...carrots, sweet potatoes, potatoes squash can all go in together (they steam). Add others at the top like asparagus or green beans near the end. Cut the veggies into sizes that are similar and they cook very well. I've been trying the new Knorr seasoning cups (very small MSG load) in the bottom of the cooker, with some minced garlic and baste every 20minutes or so. My son used his cooker, which I gave him for college, for our Thanksgiving meal...a nice tender chicken--The cooker is mostly for smaller families however. I think the veggies come out so well, I never butter them anymore! I suggested it because he was helping us with our new smartphones, so the meal cooked itself while we did iTunes and app store, etc.

Just make a change each week or every other day...then over a month you will be more used to the new things. Trying to do it all at once is rather dunning IMO.
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I agree about wheat. Whole wheat is a step toward less wheat. None is always better. We should not feel like we always have to have bread with a meal. I do like to bring sandwiches with me when I go hiking though.
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