Infection after ozone injection.

[Fhen]

Originally Posted by Bryanna

Hi Fhen,

So sorry to hear about your complications with the ozone injections. I was wondering .... did your physician or your dentist do them?

I am curious what you have been told about the correlation between root canaled teeth and breast cancer. Could you share that information here?

Bryanna

Hi Bryanna, Just a little history for you on my case: I had a root canal approx 5-6 years ago. Shortly after I had the root canal tooth extracted and a titanium implant placed. That is when my illness started. It was a gradual onset and I didn't pay attention to symptoms the first year. In Jan 2011 I had the implant extracted and found out it had perforated my maxillary sinus when it was placed. Cone beam ct scan showed the hole in my sinus was healing but my chronic sinusitis persisted.
To answer your question, I have been getting ozone injections from my dr who is MD. He also does acupuncture, homeopathy, etc. I think he calls it integrative medicine. He will use conventional med if there is a benefit but most of his practice is in alternative therapies.
He told me I have a "smoldering infection" from the root canal and implant. To paraphrase him, anytime a foreign body is put into your jaw like that it often brings along bacteria and when it enters your body it turns anaerobic due to the lack of oxygen. Anaerobic infections are almost impossible to kill off because they are so hard to get to. While this infection is smoldering in your body it is producing very powerful toxins, some of which are carcinogenic. I did a quick google search and found a link between root canals and breast cancer. Ozone has been shown to kill anaerobes and that is why he wanted to try it. I felt much worse after the ozone injections so we are holding off for now while we treat the mold and mycoplasma.
From what I gather, the root canal and implant put my immune system a tizzy to say the least and so I keep getting infections that wouldn't make most healthy people sick. I have been under the care of my dr since April 2011 and have been basically putting out fires as they come along, looking forward to regaining my health.
Hoping you are in good health, I haven't read much here yet

[Bryanna]

Hi Fhen,

When the tooth was extracted, was the implant placed in that site immediately...if not, how long thereafter? When the implant was removed, were there any specimens taken of the surgical site for biopsy and culturing purposes?

At the time of the implant placement, an xray should have been taken to determine the location of the implant in relation to the sinus membrane. I don't know if that was done in your case but if the implant was seen on the xray to have perforated the membrane, then the implant should have been removed immediately. Depending on the size of the perf, it would either be surgically closed over or allowed to heal on it's own. Then after several weeks to a few months, a second surgery could be attempted to place the implant again. If the implant is left in the sinus, infection is imminent and it will be very difficult to eradicate.

One big problem that occurs when a tooth is root canaled is..... the original infection in the tooth becomes even more abundant from the lack of oxygen and blood because the nerves and vessels have been severed during the procedure. The tooth becomes overwhelmed with infection and inflammation which always proliferate through the tooth into the jawbone. The longer the root canaled tooth is present the more deterioration occurs in the jawbone. ANYtime a dental implant is placed in the site of a previously root canaled tooth, the risk of infection and failure are elevated due to the avascular necrosis.

What typically occurs in cases like yours....the bone becomes infected from the root canaled tooth, the implant is placed in infected necrotic bone, and the infection migrates into the sinus cavity. The perforation of the sinus is often a secondary issue to the already compromised jawbone and may have even been open prior to the placement of the implant... just not diagnosed.

I am a huge believer of Integrative medicine and personally feel all medicine and dentistry should be Integrative! Your MD is wise to refer to your condition as a "smoldering infection"... that is right on!! All root canaled teeth are smoldering infections and the mess they leave behind is unmeasurable. He's correct that this type of infection is very difficult to treat. I have to admit that I have never seen ozone injections cure this type of infection, but I have seen it temporarily relieve some symptoms. Has your MD talked to you about aggressive antibiotic therapy at all?

Bryanna

Originally Posted by Fhen

Hi Bryanna, Just a little history for you on my case: I had a root canal approx 5-6 years ago. Shortly after I had the root canal tooth extracted and a titanium implant placed. That is when my illness started. It was a gradual onset and I didn't pay attention to symptoms the first year. In Jan 2011 I had the implant extracted and found out it had perforated my maxillary sinus when it was placed. Cone beam ct scan showed the hole in my sinus was healing but my chronic sinusitis persisted.
To answer your question, I have been getting ozone injections from my dr who is MD. He also does acupuncture, homeopathy, etc. I think he calls it integrative medicine. He will use conventional med if there is a benefit but most of his practice is in alternative therapies.
He told me I have a "smoldering infection" from the root canal and implant. To paraphrase him, anytime a foreign body is put into your jaw like that it often brings along bacteria and when it enters your body it turns anaerobic due to the lack of oxygen. Anaerobic infections are almost impossible to kill off because they are so hard to get to. While this infection is smoldering in your body it is producing very powerful toxins, some of which are carcinogenic. I did a quick google search and found a link between root canals and breast cancer. Ozone has been shown to kill anaerobes and that is why he wanted to try it. I felt much worse after the ozone injections so we are holding off for now while we treat the mold and mycoplasma.
From what I gather, the root canal and implant put my immune system a tizzy to say the least and so I keep getting infections that wouldn't make most healthy people sick. I have been under the care of my dr since April 2011 and have been basically putting out fires as they come along, looking forward to regaining my health.
Hoping you are in good health, I haven't read much here yet

[Fhen]

Hi Bryanna,
Sorry for the lapse, I just noticed there was a second page. I am new to websites like this.

Thanks so much for all of the info, I appreciate you taking the time to write all that. It has been approx 2 months since I had ozone injected into my jaw (twice) and although I had quite a bad reaction in my sinus at first (?herxheimer) after about 2 weeks I started feeling much better. I have been in the meantime to see some holistic dentists and they report excellent results with ozone killing off jaw infections from root canal, although they did say sometimes it does not work and debridement is necessary.

I am not sure how long after extraction the implant was placed, it was not right away. It could have been days but I don't think longer than a week or so. Hard to recall as it was 5 years ago. No biopsy was taken, I had no idea what I was getting into but boy did I learn! I am really hoping that the jaw infection is gone. I have been feeling better, still fatigued but have been helped by ozone saunas and insufflation. The ozone is supposed to detox the left over toxins and help boost my immune system.

Do you know anything about a diagnostic machine that can detect cavitations in the jaw? My MD does bioenergetic testing and has been spot on with all of the various problems I have had, but I was wondering what the more conventional approach is?

Thanks so much.

Originally Posted by Bryanna

Hi Fhen,

When the tooth was extracted, was the implant placed in that site immediately...if not, how long thereafter? When the implant was removed, were there any specimens taken of the surgical site for biopsy and culturing purposes?

At the time of the implant placement, an xray should have been taken to determine the location of the implant in relation to the sinus membrane. I don't know if that was done in your case but if the implant was seen on the xray to have perforated the membrane, then the implant should have been removed immediately. Depending on the size of the perf, it would either be surgically closed over or allowed to heal on it's own. Then after several weeks to a few months, a second surgery could be attempted to place the implant again. If the implant is left in the sinus, infection is imminent and it will be very difficult to eradicate.

One big problem that occurs when a tooth is root canaled is..... the original infection in the tooth becomes even more abundant from the lack of oxygen and blood because the nerves and vessels have been severed during the procedure. The tooth becomes overwhelmed with infection and inflammation which always proliferate through the tooth into the jawbone. The longer the root canaled tooth is present the more deterioration occurs in the jawbone. ANYtime a dental implant is placed in the site of a previously root canaled tooth, the risk of infection and failure are elevated due to the avascular necrosis.

What typically occurs in cases like yours....the bone becomes infected from the root canaled tooth, the implant is placed in infected necrotic bone, and the infection migrates into the sinus cavity. The perforation of the sinus is often a secondary issue to the already compromised jawbone and may have even been open prior to the placement of the implant... just not diagnosed.

I am a huge believer of Integrative medicine and personally feel all medicine and dentistry should be Integrative! Your MD is wise to refer to your condition as a "smoldering infection"... that is right on!! All root canaled teeth are smoldering infections and the mess they leave behind is unmeasurable. He's correct that this type of infection is very difficult to treat. I have to admit that I have never seen ozone injections cure this type of infection, but I have seen it temporarily relieve some symptoms. Has your MD talked to you about aggressive antibiotic therapy at all?

Bryanna

[Bryanna]

Hi Fhen,

Are you sure the implant was placed within a week after the extraction?? That is way too soon and no wonder you have such a severe infection!!

The machine sometimes used to detect cavitations in the jawbone is called a Cavitat. I am quite familiar with this machine but in all honesty, I am not sold on it's reliability. It is very technician sensitive meaning, you could have it done several times in a row, each time with a different technician and more than likely you will get 5 somewhat different readings. I personally would not rely on this test as a definitive diagnosis.

Conventional dentistry to put it bluntly..... are generally clueless about cavitations. Most general dentists have never diagnosed or treated one. That's not to say that they haven't seen one because they do see them frequently... they just don't deal with them. Biological dentists are more knowledgable about this and some are trained in treating it.

Are you familiar with the IAOMT organization? Their website is IAOMT.org. You may find someone there who could help you.

Keep us posted!
Bryanna

Originally Posted by Fhen

Hi Bryanna,
Sorry for the lapse, I just noticed there was a second page. I am new to websites like this.

Thanks so much for all of the info, I appreciate you taking the time to write all that. It has been approx 2 months since I had ozone injected into my jaw (twice) and although I had quite a bad reaction in my sinus at first (?herxheimer) after about 2 weeks I started feeling much better. I have been in the meantime to see some holistic dentists and they report excellent results with ozone killing off jaw infections from root canal, although they did say sometimes it does not work and debridement is necessary.

I am not sure how long after extraction the implant was placed, it was not right away. It could have been days but I don't think longer than a week or so. Hard to recall as it was 5 years ago. No biopsy was taken, I had no idea what I was getting into but boy did I learn! I am really hoping that the jaw infection is gone. I have been feeling better, still fatigued but have been helped by ozone saunas and insufflation. The ozone is supposed to detox the left over toxins and help boost my immune system.

Do you know anything about a diagnostic machine that can detect cavitations in the jaw? My MD does bioenergetic testing and has been spot on with all of the various problems I have had, but I was wondering what the more conventional approach is?

Thanks so much.

[Tolle]

Hello Fhen
I was wondering if you ever found a resolution for your possible jaw infection and sinus issues. I have lots of the same issues, and am currently trying both cavitation surgery and ozone injections. Could you let me know what eventually helped you, if anything?
Thanks so much

[Vowel Lady]

After many weird problems, one dentist who extracted my tooth and then did a graft the same day....gave me that Ozone shot after I reported persistent low grade fever. It did not help one bit. My pain worsened....hope it wasn't related, but then again after experiencing some very odd, dangerous and damaging dental situations of late....not much would surprise me. Check, double check, triple check. Assume nothing. I am seeing multiple docs now, for restorative care and second opinions (but the latest trend is to tie up all the docs in the city in one pseudo practice and making it hard to get a second opinion easily). Lately, I have been getting some nice referrals from support groups....people with special needs who believe it or not can least afford to be damaged by medical professionals (like dentists) , but often are the ones who get the most debatable treatment. This might be because some doctors don't want to admit they know little about your special needs and/or they fail to take into consideration other medical issues you might have.

Some thoughts.....seriously consider using an oral surgeon for all oral surgeries and of course if you are having a problem after a dentist has worked on you, get to one FAST!

One caveat......be on the lookout for nerve damage.... A subject often avoided.

Get referrals on all your medical professionals and double check on line for patient referrals/comments. Get second opinions. And if your doctor/dentist refuses to answer your questions or is rude....run like the dickens out the door.