Originally Posted by romans8
From what I read on this forum I have to agree about young people and athletes recovering faster and more complete than older people who have carried TOS a long time. I am 11 weeks post op and really feel about the same I did at 3 weeks. It is better than before surgery but the lack of continued progress is starting to get me down. I will go for short periods where it feels really good but these are really periods where I have been inactive, careful and maybe just lucky. I am wondering if the only way to get better from here is to somehow address the atrophy and imbalances from Carrying this so long before surgery. However that's easier said than done. I saw some discussion on here about shoulders and scapular grinding, popping etc. mine does all of this. It almost feels like something is out of joint when I move my shoulder up and back as there is clearly bone rolling over bone. It was this way before surgery as well. If I elevate my shoulder a couple of inches to be where it should be the bone on bone goes away when moving it.
What we are really missing on here are the people who have gone through the long TOS surgery recovery road and made it. It would be great to know how they did it. Maybe they do not exist. Maybe this thing does whatever healing it does in the first three months. Who knows. I am seriously considering getting after the muscle rebuilding and toning even if it increases the pain. That seems like the only way to victory. If muscles are fully innervated it seems like they would respond. However if what is really needed is to give these nerves more time to calm down then this could be a disaster.
Does anyone have any wisdom to share regarding my thinking? I wish I could get these answers from my surgeon but I do not get the chance to see him being half a country away and i am not sure he spends much time on his patient's recoveries. Local PT people sure do not have the experience with post surgery TOS.
Sorry to hear that the healing is going slow for you. I'm not young and I don't claim to be an athlete anymore, but luckily my recovery is going ok. I didn't suffer as along as you did before I had surgery so I'm sure that's a huge factor. I only went a year and a half with the pain, numbness, and discolored hand (from throwing daily) and I'm glad I didn't wait any longer. I still have some pain but usually not bad. There are days though that the pain becomes more intense and no amount of Advil/Tylenol will help. Not sure I can give any thoughts on the shoulder grinding and popping because I've had that going on for a while now because of my 2 shoulder surgeries. I will say that after each of my shoulder surgeries I worked hard at therapy and was able to start throwing 5-6 weeks earlier than the doctor projected. I have tried to have the same attitude and work ethic with this recovery but it's much tougher. I think you are right though about pushing muscles harder. Don't get me wrong, it's going to hurt, and at times it can scare you because each litte pain makes you think that the TOS is bak, but pushing my limits seem to be working for me. You just have to figure out how much pain you're willing to tolerate when working out.
I had an appt. with Dr. P this afternoon and he said I was progressing well. I did have a few questions for him and he reminded me that I was less than 3 months out surgery and that it takes time to heal. My concerns that I mentioned to him were: 1. Pain when I still take a deep breath (normal, just takes time to heal) 2. Numbness and tingling in my fingers again, especially after a physical activity (nerves waking up but if it doesn't go away I can call/text him at any time. 3. lack of feeling and deep tenderness around incision area. (normal) could take a little longer since muscles were cut.
I hope things start looking better for you.