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Unread 02-06-2013, 03:32 PM   #1
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My daughter's been on a gluten free diet for only 6 days. She's a young adult. Apart from some other difficulties, she's had patches of dry scaly skin on various areas of her arms and back. Doctor said eczema. She didn't have this ever until the last couple of years.

Anyway, long story short. Her eczema has totally disappeared. Is it actually possible that only 6 days on a gluten free diet could be the reason? I mean, can it be THAT fast and obvious?

btw - Thanks for all the excellent advice and blogs and recipes etc. that you've all posted on this particular forum. Extremely helpful for me as I'm the cook.
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Well, you understand my amazement. Sheesh. 6 days???
We just can't believe it and figured it was too fast to see such an improvement. I just needed to ask because it's such a dramatic effect.

Now I'm hoping it'll help with the brain fog and the energy loss. crossing fingers.
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Hi there.

My daughter's been on a gluten free diet for only 6 days. She's a young adult. Apart from some other difficulties, she's had patches of dry scaly skin on various areas of her arms and back. Doctor said eczema. She didn't have this ever until the last couple of years.

Anyway, long story short. Her eczema has totally disappeared. Is it actually possible that only 6 days on a gluten free diet could be the reason? I mean, can it be THAT fast and obvious?

btw - Thanks for all the excellent advice and blogs and recipes etc. that you've all posted on this particular forum. Extremely helpful for me as I'm the cook.
Hi Lara. I have a question for you. My son also has eczema since he was about 1 year old. We have tried so many lotions and prescriptions from the doctor and nothing seems to be working. What other symptoms did your daughter show? I am curious because I myself have been suffering for a while with different problems and I'm trying to make a connection between all of this. I would be interested in hearing about it. I should mention my son also get frequent diarrhea and he often looks bloated after eating. We kinda just thought he was chubby but it's all in his gut and fluctuates from day to day and even hour to hour. Any insight would be appreciated. Btw to the best of my knowledge nobody in my family has any gluten intolerance.
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Hi keepingfaith,
Daughter actually has a few other health issues. Her symptoms have just been put down to her other conditions which is possible, but something just hasn't been making sense and nothing she's been treated with or any advice she's received have left her feeling any better and she has so much to do!

Last straw for me was last week her doctor decided that she should see a psychologist as her anxiety might be the cause of it all. She does have some anxiety (runs in the family) but I'm not convinced it's causing all these issues.

As I said, she's a young adult. She also has an extremely heavy study load at university, but so do thousands of people. Because she's got these other health issues it's all been very confusing but she just hasn't been getting better so this was a bit of a light bulb moment.

She'd also had Epstein Barr Virus a few years back.

Of course, she's not been tested for gluten sensitivity at this point in time so this is just a trial. It was just so astounding to see her skin areas change so drastically! She is ecstatic and I was dumbfounded. I will be ecstatic if I see her with some energy again. It's only been a very short time obviously so I'm really hoping like anything that some of her other issues will get better as well. We'll see.

She's always testing with borderline Ferritin.
borderline B12
She's always fatigued.
Always tired. More tired than I am. Wakes up as if she's not had any sleep at all and that's not because of study. That's whether she's up half the night or not.
Nausea
Aches and pains
Headaches
She doesn't really have any real bowel issues.

She has a good diet and takes supplements. Quite slim in build. As a very little girl she always had a big tummy but we found out she only had one kidney working and two mega ureters. Meaning the urine was pooling in her ureters rather than leaving fast to the bladder. Doctors put her bloated look down to that. ??

She attempts to exercize more but has to build that up because 3/4 hour in the gym seems to leave her almost bedridden for days. ugh

family history. Well, I'm not gluten sensitive that I know of but I'm doing this with her just to make life more simple for me. Eating gluten free is not a simple feat!

My son, however, is on autism spectrum. He's almost 2 years older than her. He wasn't diagnosed correctly until his early teens. He did have eczema as a toddler. I thought at first he was allergic to the lambs wool car seat cover because his patches were mostly on the areas which were exposed to it. He also had the occasional asthma problems. All of which he grew out of quite early. I made so many, many dietary changes for him when he was a child, but never thought about gluten way back then. I wish I had.

Edited to add later: I just remembered that my son had giardiasis when he was somewhere between 1 and 2. It's some type of parasite. We were in drought here and the water levels were very low. I recall the doctor at the time saying it was affecting a lot of children. Obviously a contaminated water supply. That gave him diarrhea and bloating etc.. All went away after treatment.

I'm just a novice at this so hopefully some of the regulars from this forum will read your msg and respond as well.

Don't know if that is any help to you at all. I'm sorry I'm not more knowledgeable about this gluten sensitivity issue. I have read a lot over the years but just hadn't put two and two together before now regarding my daughter and her current issues or her pre-existing conditions.
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Lara,

Thank you for your response! Wow you have been through a lot! I'm glad your daughter is feeling better and it certainly seems like gluten may be one of her problems. I'm going to try the GF thing as I just don't know where else to turn at this point. And I figure if that's not the issue at least it's a healthier lifestyle I'm sure. My son's issues are very minimal compared to mine which I am thankful for. The eczema is what popped out at me. I have tried changing his soaps and washing his clothes in different detergent and nothing works. And his doctor just repeatedly fills the prescription for his cream but like I said before that helps not even a little bit.

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There is an itchy rash that comes with gluten intolerance/celiac.

It is called dermatitis herpetiformis.

If you search this, you'll find photos on Google images.
It varies in presentation, but can be confused with eczema.

Long term gluten intolerance can lead to malabsorption of
nutrients from foods. So using a good multivitamin is important.
One will minerals in it like zinc, etc.
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Thanks, mrsD.

She has been having some problems with what she thought were pimples on her face around her mouth and chin mostly and also on the sides of her face almost in a line from ear lobe to chin. She's also just developed the most nasty mouth ulcer today. It started two days ago and tonight it's quite awful. Never had a mouth ulcer before in her life.

I checked the images which are pretty severe compared with hers but there was one image of the lower area of a woman's face and my daughter's face actually looks a little similar. She's had it coming and going for months thinking it was hormonal pimples. I was beginning to think it was some sort of strep infection which she can do without. Gosh, so much to think about now.

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please let me know how things are going for you and your son. One thing I've been pleasantly surprised with is that the few shop bought gluten free products we've found have very little or no sugar in them and that's a big plus for me. Seems as if everything is changing regarding our dietary intake but as you said... healthier lifestyle either way.
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--the fact of borderline ferretin and/or B12 increases the suspicion of gluten sensitivity/celiac, given that nutritional malabsorption is certainly a result of the immune attack on the villi of the small intestine.

She really could use a comprehensive gluten/celiac panel (anti-gliadin IgA and IgG, anti-transglutaminase IgA and IgG, anti-endomyesial antibodies), though these can sometimes be negative even in biopsy proven celiacs.

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Thanks glenntaj.

Just have a couple of questions today. Trying to get it sorted... So Celiac disease is an auto-immune disease, and gluten sensitivity is more of a generalized immune reaction to gluten?

Anxiety. I didn't realize that anxiety and depression are so common in people who are gluten sensitive.

Also... Daughter has just finished a six week course of B12 injections. The doctor has now suggested that as she's still not feeling better then she needs to see a psychologist because the B12 should have made her feel better. ??? She's made the appt. but I'm thinking she should cancel it for the time being. Sheesh. However, we don't want to be making wrong decisions here because we're doing our own detective work.

The more I read though the more I see so much fits together with the gluten. If someone came to me with all these symptoms in a young woman, wouldn't the brain automatically think that there's something wrong in the body, rather than automatically think there's something going on with her emotions that needs some sort of therapy and that it's her emotions that are causing the physical signs and symptoms? ugh

Last question for the moment... She's due for an HepB booster this week. She either has this now or she has to re-do the whole series prior to January of 2014 because of her career/studies. She's had everything except this last one. I'm not sure it's such a good thing to be having at this very moment. Any comments?

I also wondered if being gluten sensitive is caused by a trigger rather like an allergy. Some people develop allergies or sensitivities to mango for example by being exposed to the sap. They can eat mangoes all their lives but suddenly after being exposed they have allergic reaction. Is gluten like that? Can one eat it for a long time, but then maybe an overload of gluten can trigger this sensitivity?

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