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Unread 03-30-2012, 03:41 PM   #11
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Kefir normalizes the bowel flora which may be damaged from
antibiotics and/or inflammation.

For women it can help female discomforts too, over time, like yogurt is supposed to do. That whole area "down there" is linked and improving the bowel flora improves all the membranes there.

I've eaten yogurt for years. It did nothing like Kefir did for me!

There are some medical sites claiming that 70% of human illness links to the GI tract and that restoring this balance is necessary for normal immune functions and nutrient absorption.

For general well being and improvement of nutrient absorption, I think Kefir is well worth it. It doesn't cost alot of money and tastes good if you get the flavored ones.

Is Kefir found in local grocery stores? I have had Cystocele surgery about three and half years ago and about two years ago had Rectocele surgery. The Rectocele is coming back and is in the early returning stages. Many problems in "those" areas.

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Their website should direct you.

We have it now at Kroger's and Costco here.
http://www.lifeway.net/

They have a coupon you can get once a month on that site too.

I've been doing my CE all month and today, I had PROBIOTICS!

How timely.

The kefir from Lifeway has about the same organisms as the
preferred product, VSL #3 which is recommended by doctors.

http://www.vsl3.com/

The Kefir has more strains than VSL#3 however, and is off by one of the strains (not included).

This is a short list of what they do:
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Probiotics interact with the intestinal epithelial cells to induce protective proteins and regulate apoptosis (cell death); compete with pathogenic bacteria for both binding sites on the intestinal wall and for nutrients; enact bacteriocidal actions, including lowering intestinal pH by producing lactic, acetic, and/or propionic acids, as well as organic acids, bacteriocins, and hydrogen peroxide; and modulate inflammatory signaling systems, including enhancing phagocytic activity, producing immunoglobulin A, and stimulating cytokine production.

Probiotics produce short chain fatty acid metabolites that play roles in fermentation, which aid digestion.

Probiotics synthesize vitamins, especially vitamin K and those in the B vitamin group.

Probiotics increase mineral absorption.

Probiotics detoxify carcinogens.
from http://www.powerpak.com/course/content/108027
(not sure you can access this site, but I will put the link in anyway.)

BTW the inducing cytokines in the GI wall is beneficial.. they are protective. Cytokines elsewhere may be inflammatory. But in the GI tract they are a barrier to invasion.
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All very good information! If I were to have the problem with B6, how would I go about finding out? Is there a test I can ask for or is there a certain kind of doctor who is more inclined to check this stuff out seriously? Most doctors I've talked to don't know anything about vitamins.

I've also noticed in the past couple of months (since I've stopped my vitamins completely) that my mouth is sore. Under the tongue, including THE spot where my wisdom tooth hole was. The wisdom area is white colored. The tongue feels burned or as if I have cankers but mostly at night. I have felt slight soreness on the roof of my mouth too. My gums have always gotten sore too - now and in the past. I always think I have gingivitis but the dentists never seem to see much of a problem except some recession.

My ideas about this are: reaction to elavil, causing dry mouth - although it's always better in the morning. One time I bit the pill in half and my whole tongue went numb immediately. I also have autoimmune and get very dry everywhere. So questioning addition of sjogren's.

Vitamin deficiency.

Mineral deficiency.

Basic nutritional problem.

I am going to make a dentist appt. next week, even though a couple of months ago I had my regular 6-month cleaning and had the mouth cancer check with the swish and glow light.

I started vitamins last week and every time I take vitamins (multi B) my feet get cold.

Yesterday and today I did something different. I only took methyl B12, Ester C and D3 yesterday, and then today I added zinc. My feet are not cold tonight and my mouth feels better. Can there be any link to the vitamin change that fast? (BTW in my whole history I have never taken a zinc vitamin - only multis).

One more thing, I do not believe I have a gut issue. I used to, and was told I had leaky gut by someone who did a finger prick, and I started morning shakes with fiber and took L-glutamine and I swear it fixed it. My stomach seems very good to me. Can I have an absorption problem without an obvious gut issue?
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Their website should direct you.

We have it now at Kroger's and Costco here.
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you can grow your own if you are not a negligent mother like me

i was given a baby kefir which looks like a dried out bit of cauliflower.
it sits in milke and growns and once a day you tip off the milk and drink/ put on cereal or whatever

it is ages since i had my plant so the finer details of it i forget.

i made mine with skim milk powder mixed in water.
worked for me . it is sort of an aquired taste and i liked it... but got forgetful of the plants welfare.

when the plant grows to a certain size you can take off bits and give to friends. i know of some that were posted from here in australia to the USA and survived the trip and customs inspections.
that was 10 years ago

you can buy the baby at a health food store i am told

good stuff

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Vitamin C is essential to oral health. Without it the gums bleed and the mucosa does not restore as fast.

Much of scurvy (lack of Vit C), is loss of teeth!

Sore white areas of the mouth might be thrush (Candida). Should have a doctor look at that. Thrush in the mouth is a signal that most likely it is in the entire GI tract as well.
It can come from poor immune function, or after the use of
antibiotics. People with poor sugar control also get it.
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Oral Thrush - I asked my dentist about it extensively at my last cleaning (in Jan) because I have one white spot on the left side of my tongue. (And a very small in identical place on right). She looked closely and told me I do NOT have an oral yeast infection. I have been questioning this though, because of my history - recurring female yeast infections. My hormone doc is having me do a detox and was suggesting we do a metal test until I mentioned (for the second time) that I was not using birth control.

I did not notice this white spot until AFTER this past summer when I used amoxicillan for my wisdom tooth extraction. After which my feet started with their problems.

My dentist said it was a normal thing on the tongue. But... now my mouth is having these symptoms. The white spots are in specific locations though. In the back of the mouth, it feels like an ulcer/canker but it is directly on the "hole" where my tooth was.

Under the tongue on mirror sides, I see white color. It is hard to see, but is mirrored on each side and I have most of my sore-like feelings under the tongue. I do not have a "coating" on my tongue. I do think I have a "geographic tongue." My tongue is ALWAYS hairy and gets dark on top in a pattern if I drink dark liquids like wine or juice.

I also have the autoimmune and believe I have dedydration problems, which can cause white spots on tongue.

My tongue gets worse later in the day or at night. Just like my neuropathy.

I'm having a hard time believing this is thrush or yeast but if it is then maybe that is what is making my toenail areas red and painful. And causing the female issues.

I have so many issues I can't pinpoint even where to begin looking.

All my thoughts: candida, autoimmune (but why), food intolerance, vitamin deficiency, I could have any one of these. Even latex allergy. If I put on hanes socks (that contain latex) my feet get crazy. But my No Nonsense socks don't list latex and they feel the best.
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Mrs.D, yesterday your "favorite doctor," Dr. Oz, praised Kefir and held up a carton--but it wasn't Lifeway--told his audience how great it was for the G.I.
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I bet his producers read here. I wouldn't be surprised!

I stopped watching his show, it was too aggravating for me.

He contradicts himself often in the SAME show, makes huge errors, and is really guilty of ERROR BY OMISSION!

He is tiptoeing around doctors and advertisers, and will not
tell the audience what they really need to know about most supplements. Thinking they will be forced to go to their doctors, who for the most part know very little about these subjects.

And he is making a ton of money doing this. And I am a volunteer. The last show I saw was the Deepak Chopra one
with Andrew Weil... They are such experts and the show was totally mega LAME! I just can't stand it anymore. I used to watch here and there...but not anymore! SIGH.....groan.
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Oral Thrush - I asked my dentist about it extensively at my last cleaning (in Jan) because I have one white spot on the left side of my tongue. (And a very small in identical place on right). She looked closely and told me I do NOT have an oral yeast infection. I have been questioning this though, because of my history - recurring female yeast infections. My hormone doc is having me do a detox and was suggesting we do a metal test until I mentioned (for the second time) that I was not using birth control.

I did not notice this white spot until AFTER this past summer when I used amoxicillan for my wisdom tooth extraction. After which my feet started with their problems.

My dentist said it was a normal thing on the tongue. But... now my mouth is having these symptoms. The white spots are in specific locations though. In the back of the mouth, it feels like an ulcer/canker but it is directly on the "hole" where my tooth was.

Under the tongue on mirror sides, I see white color. It is hard to see, but is mirrored on each side and I have most of my sore-like feelings under the tongue. I do not have a "coating" on my tongue. I do think I have a "geographic tongue." My tongue is ALWAYS hairy and gets dark on top in a pattern if I drink dark liquids like wine or juice.

I also have the autoimmune and believe I have dedydration problems, which can cause white spots on tongue.

My tongue gets worse later in the day or at night. Just like my neuropathy.

I'm having a hard time believing this is thrush or yeast but if it is then maybe that is what is making my toenail areas red and painful. And causing the female issues.

I have so many issues I can't pinpoint even where to begin looking.

All my thoughts: candida, autoimmune (but why), food intolerance, vitamin deficiency, I could have any one of these. Even latex allergy. If I put on hanes socks (that contain latex) my feet get crazy. But my No Nonsense socks don't list latex and they feel the best.
Is this a possibility.

http://byebyedoctor.com/leukoplakia/
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I was very interested with this description of leukoplakia.
Every time in the past year that I have read a description that mentions HIV, I have been worried, just because a lot of these descriptions are similar to what I describe. But I tested negative for HIV in 2007, and then recently in January I retested just to make sure, and I tested negative. Since I have been with only one person in the past 5 plus years I am definite that I do not have HIV. But I have wondered extensively about what's going on with my tongue. I do like wine. And I seem to have geographic tongue.

I just went to the dentist last week for this problem, and then also went to an ENT. My white spots are "normal" and I do NOT have thrush or yeast in the mouth. Both dentist and ENT have assured me that I do not have any yeast and both have said my tongue looks completely normal. The dentist said I have a swollen submandibular salivary gland. That it was hard and should be checked by an oral surgeon. The oral surgeon he referred me to said on the phone that he would most likely just send me to an ENT. So I just went to the ENT. He checked my mouth and saliva out and stuck the scope down my nose and throat and said everything looks normal, he didn't see anything cancerous and that he believed whatever is going on is caused by my autoimmune disease and he prescribed me a week-long medrol/sterioid pack. My biggest problem with this is that EVERY doctor I see states my problems are due to my autoimmune disorder and truthfully this is always stated as soon as I say I have an autoimmune disorder.

But I really do feel a lump under that side of my tongue where the DENTIST said my submandibular gland is swollen. I have felt it for quite a while, just thought it was a sore or something.

So do I take the sterioid? Interesting thing is that the very night after I saw the ENT, (and $400 later) I went to a restaurant/bar. While I was telling the bartender that wine caused my gums to swell, and telling her a shortened version of everything, a lady who was having a conversation with her boyfriend suddenly stopped, looked at me and said... it sounds like a submandibular salivary gland. I had the same thing and the doctors don't know what it is! It took over a year for them to figure it out, by that time I needed surgery to remove the gland... She said her dentist and oral surgeon figured it out and it's been fixed ever since. She showed me the scar from having the gland removed. It was weird because what she said matched exactly. And just before going out I had done my research and read about salivary/submanibular glands, how ENTS don't always notice them, and how they develop stones. The lady mentioned a stone and sucking on a lemondrop... and she described exactly what I feel...

so do I go back to the dentist or go to the oral surgeon (I'll go to the one she referred me to). Or do I take the steroid to see if that helps with anything (including my red/painful toes STILL going on).

I think fate brought me to the bar - it was the weirdest thing.
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